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I understand they got actors that relate to "being on the spectrum" and had one supposed autistic writer on staff; but it seems they got people with lots of internalized ableism to participate in this series. I say that as compassionately as possible as someone that wasn't diagnosed until age 39 and is still sorting through my own internalized ableism 3 years later.

The infantilism in the first 2 minutes of episode one was just gross. How it's basically the perspective of caretakers that's really "how THEY see US. From the perspective of carers and the Austic people are basically tropes.

Exposure therapy is a huge "NO!" to portray like that. Many of our sensory issues, literally cause us physical pain/distress! Like beyond what most Allistic (or others use the term Neurotypical) people call severe pain. It often isn't actually fear (which is all that's seen on the outside and we often can't even communicate to explain ourselves since we're often not believed anyway) that makes us afraid to do certain things. It's often fear of the extreme pain it causes to do such things. Or that we fear literal violence when communicating with most people because of how they act towards us being different. That's also why many of us fear socializing. Being mocked, abused, bullied, or exploited.

I just really wish these shows would be written, directed, acted, everything by everyone being autistic/ND and I bet they'd be written entirely different.

I also read they consulted Autism Speaks for this which made me turn it off immediately when I found out. For anyone that doesn't know, many actually Autistic folk agree that Autism Speaks is a literal hate group for autistic people. They make millions, if not billons off exploiting us, trying to "cure" us (which is Eugenics), promote ABA (which is basically conversion therapy to training an autistic child similar to an animal to not be autistic but be non Autistic. Which many that had this therapy that are now adults have severe PTSD from), they also promote electro shock therapy on autistic folk. They also are mainly run by non autistic folk. Just watch their promotional video from about ten ? Years ago that nothing short of labeled autistics as monsters that ruin families and destroy parents lives. There are tons of other autistic advocacy groups they could have consulted but choose such a problematic group instead.

Shame on this series and anyone that thinks it's anything but ableist garbage.

I used to have this friend. She seemed so self aware and like an open minded skeptic when we'd discuss anything supernatural because she knew I was a skeptic that wanted to be open minded. But she was actually the least self aware person I knew (I realized eventually) and very much naively believed very common things were supernatural, synchronicity, etc. One instance (of numerous things like this with her) was we were at this park and it had a like 18th century house with furniture that was open to the public. We go in and she's discussing all the negative "energy" she felt. Claiming she sensee spirit energy, like it was ghosts. I felt the exact same tension/"energy" .... But I knew it was my mold allergy. I could smell the mold and literally felt my body tense up from breathing it in... I felt anxious all the sudden and like there was a danger in there that I needed to run from. I totally go into fight or flight with certain allergies. It sucks but is a very common and normal reaction to warn the body of potential danger! Exactly what she described before I said a word. This happens every time I get around mold and I've heard numerous others explain exactly the same issues when their known mold allergy kicks in... She has lots of allergies too. She was indeed hyper aware that her body felt tense, that she found it hard to breath, and that her fight or flight kicked in... But she prescribed supernatural forces to cause this instead of logical scientific ones, like understanding her own allergies better.

I give this personal story to emphasize the people in this documentary remind me so much of her. They claim to keep a logical skepticism, but really don't. They have so much cognitive dissonance, I can feel it through the TV as I watch. They don't see that a majority of their claimed "synchronicities" (they don't go 5 minutes without mentioning them also) are them looking for something in nothing. I'm not trying to belittle these people. Humans, in general, have large amounts of cognitive dissonance. II used to natively believe similar things like this, that I now realize have logical explanation I just didn't educate myself properly like I insisted I had. They actually seem like people I'd love to have respectful debates about such things with.

I live in West Virginia, which is Mothman territory. I know a lot of the lore and the people here decently well. Some are very kind and will totally be helpful to strangers. But many are not too fond of outsiders. Very territorial. They will either give you cold stares and vague replies to make you go away (even threaten you as they have "pack" mentality) or they will totally mess with you once they know how to target your weaknesses to their advantage. These people have been so badly abused and mistreated by the coal industry, they know no better or some even find humor in it. When they visited Hellier and claimed the people acted weird towards them, that seemed "normal" to me from what I know of Appalachia. Yet it spooked them big time. I couldn't help but chuckle and think how where I grew up I was treated like that my whole life because I was transplanted from North East at a young age and my family was non religious. So they acted just like that to me/my family too, in WV!

Now, I say all this to follow up and say, despite feeling they are all very naive, I do believe there's "something" to the lore in these parts. I don't know what exactly. Other worldly or just answers in psychology/science, I don't know. So this interested me enough to keep watching to see what they dug up. But it seems overly drug out to telling the story, because they get so caught up in too many "synchronicities" that really aren't but they do badly need to believe it. (Also note I totally believe in real, legit synchronicities! I've had really real stuff line up that turned my atheist self into a believer in something more for certain!)

I also found the music to be distracting as another review stated. I have to constantly read the captioning because the music they picked for suspense is louder than the people talking. But it isn't so bad that it made me turn it off.

Also to the other review that claims this is supposed to be a mockumentary, from everything I found online that's false. Even looking at Twitter, it was tweeted by the one main person in this that it is indeed a documentary.

I understand real humans create movies and as a fellow creative (visual arts) I am trying to be more mindful of how I negatively review such things because these are real humans with real feelings that create such things.

With that said, I couldn't get through yet another Blumhouse production film because it was that bad. It seems movies under that label are very predictable, shallow, entitled, and badly written and acted. Is this on purpose, and am I missing some reason these are written in such ways? These are about on par with films from the 1970s, but set in modern times with better visuals and that's it. I feel like in 2022 we could collectively do much much better.

There are much scarier things to write about and better ways to portray it than this. I find it odd what the masses find frightening when reality is so much darker and scarier than the stuff people whom seem totally detached from such real life horrors try to write about. I guess it scares them because they've never had to experience real trauma and terror? Or maybe that's why these things get created? To deflect from facing the real life terrors, to turning everything into unrealistic horror stories so that y'all don't have to admit what's really going on? I think it is often a combination of both.

Also there were small levels of ableism when the character used the phrase "mouth breathers" that I'm no longer ok hearing used as derogatory slurs. There may have been more but this movie couldn't hold my focus. Intersection is important, yet it feels like ableism is often ignored still.

Every single movie in the Blumhouse series I've attempted to watch has just been awful. Bad acting. Bad writing. Bad understanding of psychology. No real plot twists and arcs. Totally predictable.

My issue with most "horror" movies that try to scare people with these characters that they think are based on them understanding psychology, is they only scare people that actually don't understand psychology at all. But the thing is if they really did understand and actually wrote a GOOD script based on really understanding psychology it definitely wouldn't look like this bad script and would be much more terrifying. Just in ways that others wouldn't expect. Except the general population wouldn't understand it so they'd walk out confused...

So we have writers, like the ones that are part of this Blumhouse series, that really are entitled and have no clue how the real world works and people with mental illnesses and disorders actually are and behave. I have a big problem with that because the entertainment we watch really does dictate how we view the world. When people grossly misunderstand what a serial killer is, or how actual agoraphobia works, people still often believe that for people to get paid to make this stuff they have to portray it accurately. That isn't so, but others believe this stuff is an accurate portrayal and ohhh scary! Then you end up with people that teach psychology that are married to people similar to the characters trying to be portrayed and they actually have no clue. But that's a whole other rant.

My issue is this... Movies like this shouldn't be allowed to be made if they can't be actually accurate to certain standards about the characters they are claiming to try and portray. We don't live in the 1970s anymore and need to update our horror movies to reflect that. Stop giving jobs to people that want to keep making the same boring stuff. I could write a much better script than this and I'm not even a movie writer. I'm sure there are much better untapped writers/creatives out there that could really do great if the industry actually moved forward and expected more from those they employ.

The ableist perspective this was written and performed in was too much to keep watching after only about 20 minutes. I'm autistic and while I know some do struggle in the ways presented in the main character, I'm tired of it being presented as this is what a majority of autistic lives look like.

But you can also tell this was written from a very problematic ableist perspective of what they think being autistic is like. There's just too much ableism to pick apart in just 20 minutes without me needing to label this review as having spoilers. Just realize if you like(d) this movie you might want to look into what ableism means and start connecting with many more autistic people that don't fit the stereotypes that you know if you don't find this depiction problematic in any way. Stereotypes like this are why I didn't get diagnosed until I was 39 years old.

Also note in my experience most melt downs don't happen unless other people are trying to manipulate, confuse, abuse, or take away my autonomy. When I try to defend myself and others quickly jump back being problematic that's when I crumble and become disoriented. I've also noticed this in many other autistics I've connected with. Yet so many with ableism about autistic experience (even other autistics with internalized ableism), view meltdowns as more self absorbed temper tantrums. And that's just not true a majority of the time if you actually understand what being autistic is. Something that's taken me years to sort through, even though I'm autistic myself.

Really disappointed in this movie. Sadly it was recommended by another autistic that clearly has some internalized ableism to sort through.

I started a healing journey about 6 years ago. In this journey I began realizing how problematic the entertainment I used to enjoy actually was to my mental health (decline). As I began seeing it in myself, I began seeing it in so many others too. The things society laughs at is often bullying and abusive to the extreme and if anyone else tried to be funny in any other way they get labeled boring. When I realized this I felt broken. I stopped laughing at everything I once thought I loved to laugh at and couldn't find anything else to make me laugh again.

Then I stumbled upon "Douglas", by recommendation of others in the actually autistic community since I was also late life diagnosed about 3 years ago. I haven't laughed that hard in so long. People bashing her humor clearly aren't on her emotional IQ (self awareness) level and/or not autistic and/or not LGBTQIA+. You can tell her comedy comes from her autistic/LGBTQIA+ perspective of the world, which is unique. The things I often find funny, most others don't. And the things they find funny, I don't because I find it abusive and cruel. For so long I laughed with everyone else though and it destroyed me inside. I hated that version of me that laughed at things we really shouldn't laugh at.

I can't say much else that others haven't already said that give Hannah positive reviews about this special. All I can tell others about is how her comedy literally saved my life. I've begun allowing myself to laugh at the things I find funny that others don't get, and I've stopped laughing at the abuse and bullying others find funny. My mental health is improving and I really have Hannah to thank for that. I'm not big on praising celebrities, but Hannah deserves praise for all she continues to do in her comedy despite how awful people treat her for being different.

Turned it off when the one character, Vince, used the "R" word. He also kept referring to Walter in very ableist ways. I know that's supposed to be showing how problematic the character is, but there's better more intelligent ways to do it.

Also multiple other ableist things from other characters.

There needs to be content warnings for horribly ableist depictions of autistic people. Especially those done by horrible actors/actresses.

I figured this movie would be cheesy. My reasoning for attempting it by title alone. I didn't read any plot synopsis until I watched the first 6 minutes and saw the horribly ableist "autistic" character, Terry.

The actor is basically mocking autistic folk by his "acting". Such awful stereotypes being displayed in just a few moments. As an actually autistic person I can't watch further because it is that problematic.

Such a shame to find out Gigi Edgley is in it. I loved her in Farscape as Chiana, but looks like she took part in this piece which means I can't respect her anymore.

According to other reviews that I've read since pausing this garbage, it seems I won't be missing much not finishing it anyway.

The first episode was decently good, but I couldn't watch the mediumship ones. People living through delusions then taking advantage of vulnerable people through those delusions, is something that pisses me off with society. I do believe these types of people aren't purposeful "cons". They truly need to believe they have these abilities. Then seek out others to validate. Yet when a medium can't pull cold readings from the other person, they blame it on the other and/or the spirits not being responsive enough. I find it really problematic when a medium can do great in a big crowd of people, jumping around (because there's so many spirits guiding them...) yet do horribly bad one on one.

But yeah there was much more that just angered me in the second episode I refuse to watch onward after reading the reviews here. And most of the negative reviews I've read are very accurate to what I watched so far.

There was clearly not enough people attempting to debunk in the right way. I believe there's more to this life but not like others believe. I won't get into my beliefs here or I'd be writing too much. I just wish series on these subjects would take a realistic and true scientific approach. It often seems the people that create these shows do so through their own biases. If they want to debunk it, they get a few people that believe, then get people that completely dismiss the claims and refuse to look further. Painting believers as "crazy" or something negative. If the creators believe in the supernatural they mostly get stories from people that blindly believe and don't question much (though some will claim to but really don't). There's no objectionable standpoint on the topic. One that says maybe we don't have the science yet to answers such questions but if we all talk about it more objectively we can get to the solutions to find out better. Until we have people truly standing in the "middle" directing such dialogue we're never going to get much further on this subject.

If only I could get a job creating things like this we'd get somewhere!

There was nothing about this movie that was good. I only pay for Netflix about once or twice a year because they mostly make garbage like this. Occasionally they make sone really good stuff. This movie was not it. The characters and plot seemed to be cliches from multiple different ghost stories already done. Just more badly written. I'm not sure what they were going for.

I only subscribe to Netflix about once or twice a year because most the stuff they put it is utter garbage. This movie was one of those that's utter garbage and I feel like I not only lost an hour of my life but that Netflix should pay me for the mental health damage watching this causes. As someone's that's actually agoraphobic (but no longer believes the ableist views around the disorder), the whole thing is beyond an insult.

If you understand ableism even slightly you should be offended by how much ableism there is in this. But that's no big surprise from things Netflix puts out.

The acting was awful even though many of the actors have been in movies in the past that I used to like. Have they always acted his horribly and I'm just now noticing or was the writing and direction of this film so bad that it made them bad actors in it?

The actors were bad. The plot bad and predictable. The ableism was sickening. Netflix rates this as 98% compatible with my likes. I often feel like Netflix is most of my exes that barely paid attention to me and would only buy me presents based on what they wanted for me not what I actually wanted.

Don't make the mistake of watching this like I did. Just don't.

Couldn't watch more than 13 minutes of this. Too many cliches. Maybe that's why I never got into the orginal Fear Street books too? I don't know but I couldn't watch it all it was that bad.

While I found myself agreeing with a lot that was said about religious conservatism in this country, I feel this documentary left out one of the main reasons I stay away from any organized religion even though I'm spiritual and long for community connections these types of churches (UUC Churches) are supposed to provide EVERYONE...

And that's ABLEISM. Disabled and neurodivergent folk are highly marginalized too and many religions either victimize us to become our saviors, demonize us, ignore us until we go away, or you have the overly religious parents/guardians that claim killing their disabled child/loved one was a kindness they did so now their child isn't suffering and is with "God". And yes this still happens, yet because we are still not being heard these stories are often ignored.

I constantly see that unless the social justice these types of people are after is popular by the majority, disabled folk are still forgotten and excluded from these conversations. Yet the overly religious treat us just as horribly in different ways. I guess because even non religious folk treat disabled folk the same way just for different reasons, they ignore it so they don't have to face how badly they treat us still...

I really can't care about much else that is said in this film, because it doesn't address religion's ableist history (well not history they still do it). Intersectionality is important and we shouldn't have to force any religious group to do such things. For me, until they do, I just stay away from them all.

They all are hypocritical and think they are better than the rest while still being exclusive and problematic. This film was no different. It comes off as inclusive and all "woke" but when you're a part of the marginalized group(s) being left, out you notice. Especially since I know personally how problematically exclusive my local UUC actually is, yet claim to be inclusive like these people try to claim but fail miserably at actually being.

I always couldn't stand Kathy Griffin. She's not actually funny, but abusive and I don't like "comedy" like that. But Amazon Prime recommended this to me and I loathe Trump and felt people giving her negativity over that picture was silly (like why it took that picture for people to realize she's that big of a problem baffles me still...) and momentarily thought I wanted to know from her perspective what happened.

I was wrong...

Her ableism and fatphobia isn't ok, among other things I find very problematic about her. It isn't that I expect when "they go low we go high", BS. I'm ok saying crap to people that deserve it, as long as you don't throw other marginalized folk under the bus to do it. Which is pretty much all Kathy Griffin has ever been in her comedy. Belittle and shame other people she deems "less" than her for a quick laugh. Sadly, in this world lots of people are fans of that. I'm not.

I want to say more but realize she's still a human being and won't sink to her level to make my points. I had really hoped she learned some compassion for others through this experience because of how she was judged and treated so horribly, but I was sadly wrong.

If you Google search any of these "facts", proper science articles will indeed come up by actual scientists to educate anyone that believes this stuff to be true. When people don't properly understand science like they believe they do, this often happens. Even "professionals" often get science wrong.

Many quotes are taken out of context and just badly interpreted. I'm still wondering if this is actually meant to be serious.

This documentary was hard to watch, I had to turn it off after about 45 minutes in with about 20 some minutes left. That's sad because I really love the Mothman myth and lore of the area.

It was all slanted from the point of view that all these stories these people told are true. That's not how good documentaries are supposed to actually go, yet it seems rampant anymore. You are to present angles from BOTH sides and let the viewer decide for themselves. It seems like all others want in confirmation biases that aren't even factual.

It seems many of these stories, presented as fact, are people that don't understand science very well, even the makers of the film. That's not calling anyone stupid, there's so much we as humans don't understand, even through science... But I don't think those people need to be mashing documentaries either.

This sucks because I do believe there are weird things in this world that can't be explained even through proper science. I often feel science dismisses things that are truly unexplainable and potentially supernatural. But when someone presents ALL these stories basically as fact without trying to debunk any of them through any means with no real credible experts, it makes it hard to watch if you actually know some basic science and aren't gullible enough to believe that ALL these eye witnesses' perceptions won't be skewed from their lack of informed understanding of such proper science. Meaning, people's perceptions of events will not be the actual truth of what happened but their perception of the truth through their limited reality tunnels. There are so many properly documented accounts of mass hysteria and people really believing things happened that didn't, on record now. It is scary if a trauma (whether real or perceived) will play tricks on minds' that distort the reality of what actually happened. It is a survival technique.

If this was a real documentary they'd know much of this and get experts in all areas to discuss such things and present documented instances of such events. If these stories are truly the real deal, they'd stand up to any science that tried to debunk them. But that option was not given for a majority of the film which makes in not watchable to me. If I believe in something, I need to truly believe in it. Not blindly believe without questioning myself and reasons why I believe.

Maybe the end tied that all together and I missed it in the last 20 some minutes. But if it is that badly slanted the first 40 I just can't keep going.

When entitled people that don't really understand concepts/ideas/life have access to creating entertainment and those of us that actually understand are too focused on surviving this world, movies like this happen all too frequently.

This was awful from the start. Too much to pick apart that won't include spoilers so I'll just say it isn't worth the 38 minutes and 34 seconds I gave to it before having enough and turning it off. Then feeling the need to create this review to help others avoid my mistake.

Couldn't get past the first two episodes because of the stereotypical ableism about autistics. Yeah it wasn't the popular cis white male stereotypes, but it was still really bad stuff. What makes it even more sad is an actually autistic actress believes this is ok.

I'm autistic. I'm the least self absorbed person I know. Most Allistic people are way more self absorbed than I ever have been. I'm not an emotionless robot that doesn't have empathy if someone tells me they are dying. I'd be sobbing so hard I couldn't speak. I'd definitely ask questions after I let my emotions surface that many Allistic people find "weird". I know a lot of other autistic folk that are just like me and don't fit this stereotype as well. Yeah autistic "self absorption" exists, but so does non autistic self absorption. We don't go around claiming all non autistic folk are self absorbed because of this. It is really sad to see another autistic person believe these falsehoods about themselves because that's what society brainwashed them to believe.

Maybe it gets better. But the fat and ND jokes already were laid on thick in negative ways and I just can't ignore that when a show starts off THAT bad. Considering Josh Thomas was also in "Please Like Me" that was really problematic, I'm taking that as a sign to avoid watching anything with that actor in it...

I thought I'd try this one because Hannah Gadsby was in it and I love her Netflix comedy shows. I watched the first season up to about Episode 6 and was appalled by how problematic it was.

So much ableism. So much fatphobia and body shaming. So much lacking empathy from almost all the characters from such problematically entitled/ableist views.

I thought maybe it was a part of the character development. So I skipped to season 2 when Hannah actually comes in. I watched until about Episode 6 there as well. It only gets worse. The way that talk about and portray people with any type of deviation of "normal" mental health is just disgusting. They are either openly made fun of or the burden to everyone else around unless they magically become "normal". There's not many times they try to correct their way of thinking either. There's no balance or voice of reason calling such problematical views out as really gross and bad. Often they say things were they agree what they said could be viewed problematic by others but then laugh and act like it is still true. That the only problem is others will think badly of them for their ableist views, not for actually having ableist views that that need to fix. Even those moments are rare. Often the ableism is there as facts that's how "the mentals" are and should be treated until they fix themselves to everyone else's standards.

I see the show started in 2013, so know back then I was problematic too with my own internalized ableism, but I still can't watch this and even enjoy it. I'm not willing to subject myself to anymore of this garbage to see if the characters learn and grow by the end. It just isn't worth my mental health to see how the majority of society views people like me and get called good human beings when they are just crap people that lack empathy for anyone but themselves, while I get called the problem and told I should be more like them.

I just came across this show and am so disappointed to watch it through with only one season to it.

I never was big on the 80s/90s action movies. I didn't dislike or like Jean Claude Van Damme but I never watched much of what he was in because I'm not into movies like what he used to do.

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. The way all the inside jokes are done was just awesome. Even I got most of them not having actually watched most of his previous movies but just was familar with them. I don't laugh at self depreciating comedy. There's a huge difference between self depreciation and poking fun at oneself that many don't understand. I felt this show understood and did it well.

Beyond the comedy was lots of action for others that enjoy that. I actually enjoy the action in this because it doesn't take itself too seriously and I really enjoyed that too. Then a few really deep, emotional moments that I actually cried over.

I'm trying to be vague to not give any spoilers, but I just think everyone should watch this show. It had minimal issues that I saw, and is very sad that it got cancelled without a chance to get even better. It is sad how many other really crappy shows get 6, 7, 8, + seasons and the masses love them when they are garbage, yet a truly good show can't even get a 2nd season.

Am rewatching this show again, as it is my special interest and has been since it came out. I watch it at least once a year. I even have a tattoo tribute to the show on my wrist.

While in the past I'd have given it a full 10 stars, I can only give it 7 now. I've done a lot of healing, learning, and growing and find some aspects of the show problematic. They are very fatphobic. Anyone that's an over weight character is portrayed as gross. The women are also overly sexualized in problematic ways. And any of the male characters can do anything problematic and not get called "wh%$es" but that's a constant word thrown at any female character that behaves in any sexual manner (that isn't making her an object to a male lead) or as an insult.

With that said, I realize the time this was created. Even with the over sexualization, fatphobia, occasional homophobia, a few other issues, and such it was very progressive for the time it was made on cable TV. Very forward thinking and empowering in so many ways.

It is a show about hope, and never giving up. Making meaningful connections. Learning and growing. Messing up and still pushing forward when the odds are against you.

The character development was one of the best I've ever seen in a show. To watch each character grow over the seasons was amazing. Parts of me relate to almost ever character. So watching them evolve becomes a bit personal when I look at my own growth as a person.

If you're debating watching this, understand the first season is tough to watch. They were finding their own groove. They seem to think they needed to replicate other well known sci-fi shows of the time to be popular, so the first season tends to be a cluster of them not knowing where the show will go.

They finally find their own ways by about mid season 2. But you kind of need season 1 to know about how each character develops. So try and stick through it. It is beyond worth it.

I even have some of the comics that were made. I need to finish my collection one day.

But seriously this is still my all time favorite sci-fi show ever, along with Star Trek DS9.

I am assuming this movie's intent was to warn about why eugenics is bad. But it was written from a very ableist perspective still (though not "as" bad as the main plot).

I'll not get into spoilers. But if you have any concept about real ableism and eugenics, just don't watch this.

I couldn't go past 11 minutes in this. Too many over used tropes that are actually annoying and offensive at this point.

I don't just mean the time loop part. I mean every character was a trope. Some of them offensive in 2021.

I can't get past how ableist this is to learn more about how traumatic people's exeperiences were being at Willowbrook. The use of the "R" word, "othering", and just how the family members act like their family that went into this home weren't even human is awful to watch as a disabled person. I can't get to 10 minutes in without feeling like this is more for abled people than disabled people.