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  • ctrosie16 December 2005
    While not one of the greatest westerns to ever be brought to the screen, this movie does bring something else that others seemed to fail at, and that is actual human feelings and and what they went through in times of turmoil such as this film suggests. The townsfolk have to hold up in a church while outside they are attacked by Indians. In the movie it shows how the people would have and must have felt. The ending also leaves the viewer feeling pretty good. For not a very popular movie as say a John Wayne movie, this movie is actually quite good. It has yet to be released on DVD or VHS and i seriously doubt that it even has a chance yet if it was i strongly suggest western fans to grab a copy of it and see what I'm really talking about. As for those who want to see it now, your best bet is probably to try to catch it on the Western Channel although i have bee watching the channel for a few years and have yet to see it on there. The only time i ever saw it on television was on AMC, back when they had no commercials and actually played what the channel suggested, Classics.
  • Produced by Val Lewton, Apache Drums is directed by Hugo Fregonese and adapted for the screen by David Chandler from the book "Stand at Spanish Boot" written by Harry Brown. It stars Stephen McNally, Coleen Gray, Willard Parker and Arthur Shields. Music is by Hans J. Salter and cinematography is courtesy of Charles P. Boyle. It was shot on location at Red Rock Canyon State Park, California & it's a Technicolor production. Plot sees McNally as notorious gambler Sam Leeds, who after shooting a man in self defence, is forced to leave the town of Spanish Boot. However, outside of town Sam happens across a terrible scene that forces him back into town to warn the folk of an impending attack by the Mescalero Apaches.

    The name Val Lewton is synonymous with atmospheric horror, the likes of Cat People, The Body Snatcher, I Walked With a Zombie and Bedlam have carried the brooding Lewton production stamp. For this, his last film before he sadly passed away, we find him entering the realm of the Western. An odd coupling without doubt, yet as odd as that seems, the oddest thing of all is that the film manages to rise above its budget restrictions and come out just about on top. Working with his director Fregonese (The Raid), Lewton has produced a final movie that whilst not oozing those eerie atmospherics he's known for, does have enough about it to make it of interest to Lewton completists.

    Plot and narrative are simple, where on the surface it appears to be a run of the mill Western where the Indians are the bad guys, and the white man stands up to repel them. Yet to dismiss this as solely being formula fodder is unfair, for it has interesting characters, plenty of tension, a grand piece of action and a couple of genuinely haunting images. There's also some smarts in the writing, where racism and ethical principals are scrutinised. While the work involved for the final third of the film, as our group are holed up in a church awaiting Apache incursion, is of a very high standard. Here Fregonese and camera never leaves the room, as the town burns and the Apache chant and bang the drums, we along with the characters are left to our own imaginations, awaiting a savage death in semi darkness. It's a fine claustrophobic set up that's executed admirably. So why isn't the film better known and regarded then?

    To get to the good stuff you have to suffer the bad, quite a bit of bad in fact. Running at only 75 minutes the film just about gets away with its drawn out periods of chatter, much of which is mundane - especially where the love triangle is concerned. And the acting ranges from the effective - McNally (Winchester '73/ Criss Cross) & Gray (Red River/Nightmare Alley) - to the solid - Shields (The Quiet Man/She Wore a Yellow Ribbon), but away from those three it's pretty wooden fare. Problems also exist with the colour, with low budget comes very basic Technicolor lensing, Red Rock Canyon is reduced to being a dull observer on proceedings and the fiery flames during the finale lack colourful snap. There's also the bizarre use of the song "Men of Harlech". Zulu aficionados (and I'm one of them) know the song well, and the use here in Apache Drums is the same as in Cy Endfield's film, only here it's performed in native Welsh - with the actors dubbed! It's a poor fit all round. History tells us, though, that the defenders of Rorke's Drift did not sing the song, so it's a distinct possibility that the film Zulu owes a debt of gratitude to is in fact Apache Drums. Thank you Lewton and Co.

    Good and bad every where you look in the film, but the final third swings it well above average in my book. A generous 7/10 rating to my fellow Western movie fans, 6/10 to the casual Sunday afternoon lounge lizard.
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    This is an enjoyable Western that moves along well enough, with three "suspenseful" sequences: Sam's unarmed ride through the desert, the townsmen's mission for water, and the church siege.

    Stephen McNally does fine in the lead, but another underrated actor, James Griffith, seemed miscast as the army officer - he was more suited to enigmatic or semi-sinister roles. Armando Silvestre makes an impressive and dignified Indian scout.

    The version I saw on British TV seemed to have been edited, because the "Variety" review mentions Sam distracting the frightened children with sleight-of-hand, and the kids singing "Oranges and Lemons"; had these scenes been included in the version I saw, I suspect I might have winced at their sentimentality but they would have added depth to Sam's character.

    The saloon girls evicted from Spanish Boot were the usual highly- glamourised girls that Hollywood used to depict in preference to the drabs they must have been to have worked in what looked quite a dump of a town.

    And there was a new take on my usual query about what happens to the bodies of felled Indians that mysteriously disappear between charges that follow closely on one another in attacks on forts and wagon trains. The defenders must have killed a dozen Indians jumping through the church windows (conveniently announcing their presence by screaming), and if the siege had gone on much longer their out-of-sight corpses would have begun to smell.

    Another commentator has referred to the concluding "cutesy shot of a little donkey trotting up to its mother. It's so weirdly sudden after all the long drawn out, moody, tense, heightened tension that preceded it that it completely whips the metaphorical carpet out from underneath you." In fact I saw this as a symbol of regeneration, that the town would be rebuilt and grow up, as Mayor Maddden indicated it would when the Apaches were burning the buildings.
  • Like Lewton's horror films, one doesn't notice the low budget (the lowest ever for a color film at that time, per Lewton) because of the excellent character development and the plot tensions. And like his horror films, it's what you CAN'T see that's so terrifying. The final scene is in an adobe church with high, open windows. Outside one can hear the Apache drums and chants, the light from the burning town flickers on the walls, and one is forced to imagine the scene outside, as do the small band of settlers claustrophobically huddled inside. Indians appear at the windows from time to time like fun-house pop-ups. It's a nightmare situation mined for all its possibilities. Other scenes have a similar effect. A man without a gun comes on a just-massacred traveling party; suddenly, danger seems to exist all around him. Later, the hero is traveling with a party of armed men; suddenly he finds himself alone on foot on a flat plain with nowhere to take cover and a band of Apaches riding toward him at full gallop. And the opening scene: a gunfight occurs off-screen, shattering the peaceful scene of a kitten being served milk (an example of what Lewton called a "bus" scene after the sudden appearance of the bus in THE CAT PEOPLE). Though these situations may not be unique to this film, they are obviously the sort that appealed to Lewton, and are handled very effectively. But the core of the film is the characters: the protagonist, a card sharp who plays the angles (his nickname is "Slick") and is fast with a gun, a wise-ass who isn't all bad; the virtuous sheriff who isn't all good; the preacher, an old man with a lot of gumption, not a bad judge of character, but a reactionary Irish Catholic priest with a strong racial prejudice. Other typically interesting Lewton characters are the madam who's happy enough to leave town if someone will buy her out at a good price, the cavalry officer who understands the Indians, and particularly the stoic Indian scout, faithful to the settlers to the end. The very fact that these characters don't move to extremes in extreme situations, that they have both good and less positive traits, is what gives this film its grab. It's a film that doesn't force the viewer to follow its path, and doesn't automatically go to the dramatic limit suggested by the situation... That's why Lewton's films are great!
  • The picture gets Western action , shootouts , US cavalry charges , go riding , a love story , and it results to be an enjoyable tale . It narrates in adequate style the gradual rolling back of the native Indians from their ancestral lands by the colonist invasion including settlers , cattlemen and army soldiers . In 1880 the drums of the Mescalero Apaches carried the thunder of chief Victorio's words over the waterless mountains of the South West . The newly drawn Mexico-USA border line prevents the Apache from hunting on either side of the border . These reasons are of little consolation for the American settlers who feel the wrath of Apache attacks . In the town of Spanish Boot, inhabited mostly by Welsh silver mine. As Apache Chief Victorio breaks the peace treaty and starts attacking White settlements with his band of renegade braves. A hungry people rose to fight . Their fury fell upon settled placed where peaceful American carried on trade and Welsh miners dug for silver . One of these places was the town of Spanish Boot. There a gambler Sam Leeds (Stephen McNally) -who's in love for cook Sally (Coleen Gray)- is thrown out of a western town , as Mayor Joe Madden (Willard Parker) decides to preserve the clean image of a hard-working town by evicting the bad elements . Among them, Madam Betty Careless and her girls are told to leave town. The gambler is kicked out but he returns when the town is suddenly threatened by a band of marauding Apaches whose reason is the famine to which the tribe of Mescalero is subjected .

    Set in 1880, in the Southwestern USA ,during the Apache Indian Wars , with the violent upheaval of brave chiefs as Vitorio , when fear and violence spread throughout the land . This one shows a campy , amusing and entertaining glimpse in the Wild West . The film packs thrills , noisy action , horse pursuits , crossfire , high body-count , it is fast-moving and quite entertaining . It's a medium budget film with acceptable actors , technicians , functional production values and pleasing results . There is plenty of action in the movie , guaranteeing some shoot'em up or stunts every few minutes .Bursting with appealing characters, thought-provoking themes as the peculiar relationships among citizens , sub-plots , and with very decent filmmaking , appropriate interpretation and with some interesting elements .There is an odd implementation of shots in the camera work during some particular scenes as the film approaches its climax with bloody Apaches doing a lot of leaping from high windows , off of roofs, etc , to carry out a slaughter . Nice production design creating an adequate scenario with luminous outdoors , plains , montains and rocky landscapes under a glimmer sun and atmospheric sets but in B-series style . This zesty little western packs a nice script though at times a little stilted , moody and dramatic , but does a good job of capturing the violent environment , including brutal killings , as well as breathtaking battles and gorgeous outdoors . It is an acceptable and passable Western in which director Fregonese and prestigious producer Val Lewton manage to rise it to a superior quality . The veteran actor Stephen McNally gives a fine acting as a gunfighter who is kicked out of the town Spanish Boot but he returns to warn its citizens of an impeding Apache attack ; being well accompanied by gorgeous Coleen Gray as his sweetheart . Nice acting all around, especially from the support cast that included some of the best secondaries of the period , Willard Parker as Mayor Joe Madden , James Griffith as a rugged army captain , Arthur Shields , Armando Silvestre, James Best , Clarence Muse , among others .

    It displays a colorful and evocative cinematography by Charles P. Boyle. Thrilling and atmospheric musical score by Hans J. Salter .Final movie of producer Val Lewton , a terror expert , that's partially shown on some scenes during the creepy and frightening siege when the Indians submit the unfortunate white people . The motion picture was professionally directed by Hugo Fregonese , though has some flaws and gaps . Direction by Fregonese maintains a steady pace and is partially as good in interiors as in outdoor action scenes . Hugo Fregonese is an Argentine director and this one was a Hollywood work , that began with One Way Street in 1950 and included some biggies such as Blowing Wild (1953), his biggest hit . Fregonese started in Argentina, and Pampa Bárbara , first version , is the first first film he directed he is listed as co- director with Lucas Demare . He had done his apprenticeship with Demare as assistant director in two previous films. Hugo was an Argentina director who emigrated to Hollywood, then became technical adviser on latino themes at Columbia Studios in Hollywood, and subsequently under contract at Universal from 1950 to 1952 filming ¨Man in the attic¨ with Jack Palance , ¨Blowing wild¨with Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck , ¨Decameron Nights¨with Joan Fontaine , ¨Harry Black and the tiger¨with Stewart Granger . Spent the rest of the decade in Europe directing Euro-westerns as ¨Apache's last battle¨ , ¨Savage Pampas¨ and potboilers as "The Death Ray of Dr. Mabuse" , Terror as "Dracula vs. Frankenstein" before finishing his career back in the country of his birth . Rating : 6.5/10, acceptable and decent western. Worthwhile seeing for marvelous landscapes and breathtaking final scenes .
  • I saw this film years ago on television when I was a kid. I remembered it vividly and I've not written any review of it as I wanted to see it fresh before doing so. Now thanks to YouTube I have seen it and it is as good as I remember it.

    Stephen McNally stars as a roguish gambler who kills someone accusing him of cheating. That's all mayor, veterinarian, and blacksmith Willard Parker needs to throw McNally out of town. In fact an attack of Puritanism has swept the town of Spanish Boot and the saloon has closed down and the girls ordered to leave. But when McNally goes after them he finds them massacred by the Apaches.

    Two hundred strong under Vittorio and they've crossed the Mexican border and wreaking general mayhem in Arizona. The town bands together and takes refuge in a church which does have good walls, but also windows to high up to shoot from, but great for the Apache to scale.

    Though both McNally and Parker act real juvenile at the beginning both are goofy over Coleen Gray in the end they both step to the plate.

    Apache Drums was the last film of Val Lewton, his only western, but it has its moments of horror and suspense so associated with Lewton. It's not a film for the faint of heart, but I recommend it highly for western fans and Lewton fans.
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    There are moments of genius in this movie, though, as the other reviewer says, it is let down by a talky script - and the lamest "the cavalry arrives and that's the end of the movie" in B western history - because that's what happens; after a long drawn out, interestingly shot siege in the church, the cavalry arrives and the movie ends. Just like that. No denouement. The movie just ends. Everyone leaves the church without a backward glance for all the dead and dying loved ones within and there's a cutesy shot of a little donkey trotting up to its mother. It's so weirdly sudden after all the long drawn out, moody, tense, heightened tension that preceded it that it completely whips the metaphorical carpet out from underneath you.

    The moments of genius though, make what is, after all, a pretty short film worth watching. And a textbook example, like all Lewton's movies, on how less is more, and how to make a small budget go a long way. The scene in the desert where the gun-less anti-hero is riding on to (as he thinks) safety after promising to warn the town is nicely edgy and unsettling. And the low angle shot in the church where the town is burnt casting beams of brilliant red light across the ceiling was great. That one shot was worth the admission price for me.

    The lighting is terrific, the direction, art direction, and cinematography great - but it's a pity about the script. With a better script - there are no sub-plots or parallel action in the movie - this would have been a classic up there with the likes of Shane, High Noon, and 3:10 to Yuma.

    Interesting.
  • After gunning down two people in a saloon a gambler by the name of "Sam Leeds" (Stephen McNally) is told to leave the town of "Spanish Boot" at noon by the local mayor "Joe Madden" (Willard Parker). Although Joe believes that Sam's presence is bad for the town there is also a woman named "Sally" (Coleen Gray) who both men are attracted to that might have also factored into this decision. However, since he has little choice he sets out into the desert only to discover that the Apaches are on the warpath and rushes back to Spanish Boot to tell them of the news. At first they don't believe him but when a small cavalry unit arrives they realize that they will need every gun they can get-and even then it might not be enough. At any rate, rather than disclose any more of the film and risk spoiling it for those who haven't seen it I will just say that this was a pretty good grade-B western movie for this particular time. It certainly would have been a fine picture to show at the local drive-in. Slightly above average.
  • This is an excellent B-Western. I first saw it as a child and found it hugely exciting and gripping - and I have seen no reason to change my mind in around four subsequent viewings!

    I am puzzled when I hear people saying that they can't see the influence of producer Val Lewton in it. To me it is very clear. His expertise in building tension and providing visual shocks (from his many horror films) is clearly in evidence, especially in the climactic attack on the church. I bet he helped director Hugo Fregonese a fair bit!

    The action scenes are all well shot and exciting, but one of the best bits doesn't have any action. It is the scene where Stephen McNally comes across the Indian massacre in the canyon. Now we've all seen many Westerns where someone, usually the leading man, comes across a massacre, whether by Indians or whites. Usually however, whilst they may look sad or occasionally even upset, they are completely blasé about any ongoing danger. This is always rather unrealistic: Who is to say that the perpetrators of the massacre aren't still around, just over the next ridge, or laying in wait behind a nearby group of rocks? However, here, McNally looks genuinely scared, looking nervously around him in case the Indians are still close by, and in case he's next. At last, some realism! It is also one of the many gripping moments.

    The rousing singing of 'Men of Harlech' by the defenders of the church works well for me, despite the criticism by another reviewer. However, I agree with him that that is almost certainly where the makers of 'Zulu' got the idea from!

    I gave 'Apache Drums' a 10, as it remains one of my very favourite B-Westerns.
  • Gambler Sam Leeds and Mayor Joe Madden are rivals for the love of Sally Barr. When Leeds kills a man in self-defence Madden orders him to leave town.

    However, on the trail Leeds comes across evidence of an Apache raiding party and rides back to warn the town, but no one believes him.

    Similar to The stand at Apache river, which also features Stephen McNally, Apache Drums is a "group of citizens locked up in one area and under attack from Mescalero Apaches" story, and it has some real tense moments as well as featuring some striking visuals, such as when the Mescalero, painted up in lurid colours, come in through the window. There's a sense of grimness, of dread, especially brought on by Apache chanting.

    It's a tense little western that showcases Val Lewton's ability to build up a nightmarish situation.
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    Best known for producing eerie horror movies, Val Lewton switched to Universal westerns after five years over at RKO. What results is an interesting take on the typical natives bad/white folks good western film with the opening indicating such through their written narration indicating that starving Apaches were on a mission to raid the religious white settlement (which did include a native American as well as a few Mexicans and briefly one blackk man) after attacking and killing members of a wagon train leaving the settlement.

    The white settlers are presented as holier than thou, banishing Stephen McNally after he killed two men in self defense. They also order "entertainment" provider Ruthelma Stevens to leave along with her girls which ends up with them massacred on the wagon train that McNally finds, only pianist Clarence Muse still barely alive to tell him what happened.

    With the settlement now trapped inside their church, they fear the potential break-in of the attacking Apaches, a group called the Mescaleros. Under Lewton's producing eye and director Cy Endfield, this sequence becomes as scary as anything he did in his horror movies, and the tension is quite overwhelming. Muse in his small role is quite moving, and Arthur Shields as the hypocritical reverend is very good as well. It should be noted that Chinto Guzman who plays the kind Mexican Chacho is a male actor, not an actress as listed in his page here, although this was his only film.
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    When I first saw this film in the late 1950s, movies and especially television were saturated with Westerns, but "Apache Drums" still seemed unusual and different.

    I agree with those that think Val Lewton's last film suffers from too much talk; the love triangle between the three principals is tiresome. However when the unique Lewton touches cut in, they give this film almost a surreal vibe.

    Lewton was known for a series of psychological horror films made on shoestring budgets, often utilising existing studio sets. Val and his various collaborators used shadows and sound effects to create a number of moody masterpieces starting with "Cat People".

    However here, Lewton and director Hugo Fregonese shot the story in a wide-open, sunlit desert location.

    The set is no overused Western town with fake facades, but an intriguing cluster of dun-coloured adobe buildings including a high-walled church.

    The townspeople of Spanish Boot want respectability. Gunfighting gambler, Sam Leeds (Stephen McNally), and Betty Careless, a madam with a crew of dance-hall girls, are sent packing.

    Leading the purity push is the big blacksmith and mayor, Joe Maddern (Willard Parker), and Welsh minister, the Reverend Griffin (Arthur Shields). The mayor is also competing with Leeds for the attention of Sally (Colleen Gray) the cantina owner. Among Reverend Griffin's flock are Welsh miners. Oddly, the miners wear their miner's hats to the dinner table; it certainly would not have been done at the Morgan table in "How Green Was My Valley".

    Eventually after finding the girls massacred by marauding Apaches led by Victorio in some genuinely eerie scenes, Leeds returns to the town to warn the townspeople that hell is coming their way.

    As Leeds and the townspeople try to protect themselves, "Apache Drums" has one of the strangest sequences in any Western. When the surviving townspeople are besieged in the claustrophobic church with its deep shadows, garishly painted Apaches leap down from windows so high up the defenders can't reach them.

    In Edmund G. Bansak's biography of Lewton and his films "Fearing the Dark" he makes the observation that the Indian drums in this film are as omnipresent as the voodoo drums in Lewton's "I Walked with a Zombie".

    In the forward to Bansak's book, director Robert Wise paid tribute to Lewton's creativity, telling how he worked closely with his scriptwriters and was vitally interested in the visual look of his films, yet never imposing himself heavily on the directors.

    Lewton died shortly after the film was mad; he was only 46. Even today, those that have never heard of Val Lewton would have to agree that "Apache Drums" is anything but a run-of-the-mill Western.
  • Stephen McNally tried to becomes a first grade star, didn't get it, so he made a lot of B-movie specially in western genre like this, low budge, accompanied by several unknown casting, the picture explores those old cursed idea where the indians were the evil nature, which the history fixed many years later, segregated in a dry small reserve they were enforced to retaliate pressed by starvation and change of his culture without enough land to hunt, but the picture won't disappoint no one, it's too easy to watch, the peak in final under the drums sound as music score!!!

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    First watch: 2018 / How many: 1 / Source: DVD-R / Rating: 6.5
  • As I watched this film I could not understand why they kept referring to Arthur Shields as Welsh. This is an actor who has specialised in Irish doctors and priests and who made no attempt to change his accent to play a Welsh preacher. And then came the song, Men of Harlech, in Welsh ! To watch everyone desperately trying to mime to the song was one of the silliest things I've seen in a very long time. Everyone has since seen how well this song can work in Zulu but to drop it into this average Western was decidedly odd. It was as if some one had a song to use and a someone else a script and the two were simply rammed together regardless of the fit.
  • APACHE DRUMS (1951) is a routine western about Apaches on the warpath attacking isolated townsfolk in Arizona in 1880. A fairly low-budget film in color from Universal Pictures, it's something of a disappointment considering it was the final production of Val Lewton, the celebrated RKO producer who'd revolutionized the horror genre in the early-to-mid-1940s with such releases as CAT PEOPLE, I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE and THE BODY SNATCHER. While there are some interesting atmospheric touches and dramatic moments, the film is ultimately undone by a talky script that fails to generate much suspense.

    It focuses on a group of disparate characters in the town of Spanish Boot, with Sam Leeds (Stephen McNally), an itinerant gambler, emerging as the hero when, after being evicted from town by the upright blacksmith/mayor, Joe Madden (Willard Parker), he returns to warn them of the impending Apache attack. When the Apaches launch their big assault, all the townsfolk, including a contingent of Welsh miners, and a few soldiers hole up in the thick-walled adobe church and try to fend off entrance by Indians through the high windows. From the moment of the doors being locked, the entire remainder of the film (about 25 minutes) is from the point-of-view inside the church. Such a situation lends itself to great tension and there are some harrowing moments as the defenders stumble about in darkness and scramble for candles so they can see the Indians when they attack. Some of the fighting from this point is frenzied hand-to-hand combat in semi-darkness. One stirring moment comes when the townsfolk, frightened and intimidated by the strains of the Apaches' war song, decide to respond with a Welsh fighting song of their own.

    The suspense is undercut, however, by frequent lulls in the action, with too much talk and a pointless love triangle involving Sam, Joe and Sally (Coleen Gray), the young woman who runs the local boardinghouse for the Welsh miners. The Indians also spend far too little time fighting. They bring their drums with them and launch into a whole drumming-and-chanting number before the attack on the church, something I've never heard Apaches do in a western before (or since) and something I don't think Cochise or Geronimo, to name two famous Apaches, would have considered during their frequent skirmishes with the white man. (They might have sung a war song back at camp, but not during the actual battle!) At one jaw-dropping, head-shaking moment, the Apaches even stop the fighting to ask the whites if they've got a doctor to tend to their wounded leader, Victorio, promising to retreat if the doctor successfully patches him up. Again, this is something I've never seen the Apaches do in a western before.

    The cast is peppered with a number of fine character actors. The leading man, Stephen McNally, was quite busy in westerns in the postwar era, most memorably as a villain (WINCHESTER '73). Coleen Gray specialized in westerns and film noir (RED RIVER, KISS OF DEATH, THE KILLING). Underrated western actor James Griffith plays a philosophical army lieutenant who understands and respects the Apaches. Irish actor Arthur Shields plays a zealous Welsh minister who scorns the gamblers and drives the dance hall girls out of town, but winds up picking up a gun to fight alongside Sam during one battle. Mexican actor Armando Silvestre plays an Apache army scout who has to prove himself to the whites when the Apaches attack. Clarence Muse appears briefly as an employee of the dance hall troupe. Argentine director Hugo Fregonese did several more films in Hollywood, including the excellent Civil War adventure, THE RAID (1954), before heading to Argentina and Europe to continue his career.
  • ObeseManWatching20 January 2012
    This really is a poor film.

    Whilst the basic story is a typical good old yarn, the performances (with the exception of James Griffith as the Army commander) are very one-dimensional and the characters are hackneyed and do not develop.

    The production values are also very low and make-up on some of the "Apaches" in the title are more akin to a horror movie than a western, consequently one's mind starts to wander which is not helped by such a pedestrian-paced storyline.

    And as for direction, there is a literally-laugh-out-loud scene when they sing where you can not only tell that everyone singing is from the Welsh valleys that even the main character does not lip-synch in time.

    Although there is a slight raising of tension towards the latter parts of the film it is only slight and not really enough to make you have any doubt about the ending.

    I love westerns and am trying to see as many as I can at the moment but this is one of which I wish I had not bothered wasting an hour and a half of my time.
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    I am surprised that no one has made the connection between a sequence in this movie and an almost identical one in the movie 'Zulu'. I have seen no connection on the IMDb site or in any movie books or trivia sites. The townsfolk are surrounded and besieged by the Apaches in a small church. After an initial assault the Apaches withdraw and begin chanting and playing their drums. The anti-hero character suggests that they sing their own song to counter this and to lift their own spirits. A large number of the men in the besieged church are Welsh miners from the town, led by the preacher character they begin singing 'Men of Harlech' in Welsh. Apart from the fact that they sing in Welsh, which I think is more accurate and actually better, this is almost directly copied for the similar sequence in the movie 'Zulu'.
  • During Stanley Baker's elaborate tissue of distortions and downright untruths the defenders at Rorke's Drift break into Men of Harlech as a riposte to their war-chanting opponents despite the fact that they were still an English regiment at the time and the concert never took place anyway. And they sing the song in English, not for the Zulus' benefit presumably but as maybe a concession to the film's American backers. The director Cy Endfield had been an old Hollywood hand until he was blacklisted and it's tempting to wonder if he lifted the idea from an identical scene in what proved to be Val Lewton's final production before an untimely death. I've no idea how true to history is the siege of Spanish Boot by the Mescalero Apaches but the presence of Welsh silver-miners among the population - and they were active in New Mexico and elsewhere - no doubt reflected Lewton's interest in ethnic cultures and traditions. And when the time comes they let rip with Harlech in Welsh which, for a Hollywood movie of its day, is doubly pleasing.

    Yet another regime-change at RKO had left Lewton out on a limb after his initial run of success and he drifted unhappily between uncongenial assignments at Paramount and MGM before fetching up at little Universal whose budget-restrictions and thematic preferences he found more accommodating. And for the first time he could use Technicolor though the film commences on a dark interior before a door opens onto the outside world (maybe John Ford had been watching it too). Lewton and director Fregonese craft a sturdy morality-tale about an anti-hero who makes good in face of various forms of prejudice. Gambler Sam Leeds (Stephen McNally) kills a man in self-defence but is sent packing as an 'undesirable' along with the local "dance-hall hostesses" whom he later finds massacred after an Indian attack. A notable Lewton touch involves their dying piano-player (Clarence Muse), his scalping concealed under his derby-hat. (Lewton made a point of using black players in impressive cameos e.g. the vivacious Theresa Harris in I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE and the little page-boy in BEDLAM.) Sam returns to warn the town but is disbelieved until the stagecoach comes back bristling with arrows. A young townsman rides for help but is found mutilated down a well, polluting the water-supply. Sam leads an expedition for replenishments and the hellfire preacher (Arthur Shields) who had spoken against him comes to his aid when the party is attacked. (Shields virtually reprises his role from HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY, the Welsh and the Irish usually interchangeable in matters of casting.) The chief Victorio is wounded and the Apaches withdraw for the time being. Back in Spanish Boot Sam is arrested for having given a beer to Pedro-Peter,the cavalry-scout(Armando Silvestre) during the waterless interim and is handcuffed to the bar-rail in the saloon. The town's mayor Joe Madden(Willard Parker) who's also the blacksmith and horse-doctor has an ulterior motive. Both men are rivals for Sally (Coleen Gray) the boarding-house keeper who's torn between love and security. But when the town is finally attacked in force she helps Sam get free and everyone takes refuge inside the church. The Apaches call for aid for their dying chief and Joe elects to go out to them but when Victorio dies they kill him. When night falls the "ghost dancers" - young painted braves deliberately sacrificing themselves for immortality - launch an assault on the defenders through the high windows in a wonderfully-lit and eerie sequence, the miners do their battle-song (one of them is actor and singer Sheb Wooley, later to add to Gary Cooper's woes in HIGH NOON) and the bigoted Reverend finds accord with Pedro-Peter as they pray together to their Great Spirit. As both sides fight fire with fire in the blazing finale the Cavalry arrive in a briskly minimalist wrap-up, Sam and Sally lead the congregation into safety and a pet donkey's newborn foal runs to its mother for milk. Solid and atmospheric with fine leads and an intriguing blend of the familiar and the unusual it rightly pleased Universal who wanted to keep Lewton on board but he decided to accept an offer to join Stanley Kramer. Sadly fate intervened and he never saw the release of his swansong.
  • osloj21 March 2017
    Warning: Spoilers
    *** This review may contain spoilers ***

    *Plot and ending analyzed*

    Apache Drums (1951) is a tedious Western. Take an interesting theme like the Apache Indians, throw in enough filler to completely denude that, and then stage an absurd defensive sequence in a church, whereby the inept White townsfolk defeat the Apache Indians, who, for some reason, don't just go away, and that is what you have.

    Most of the time of the film involves the constant bickering between two men (Stephen McNally as Sam Leeds and Willard Parker as Mayor Joe Madden). A lot of talk as well is stuffed into the film, as the townsfolk sit in their houses doing nothing. Why the Apaches don't attack is unknown.

    There's also a highly annoying character, Arthur Shields as Rev. Griffin, whose bigotry and asinine comments minimizing the Apaches begins to wear thin. Stephen McNally as Sam Leeds and Arthur Shields as Rev. Griffin hold off an Apache attack in an unbelievable sequence.

    The Apache attack sequence in the church, although exceedingly ludicrous, is well lighted with Apache raiders colored in bright red or orange, which lends the scene to the unusual.

    None of the actors are particularly likable, since they both hate each other and really, I didn't care much. I just wanted to see a decent Western, but it's not here.
  • I saw this movie as a kid and it really scared me. I had really vivid memories, particularly of the Mayor, shooting of the Apache chief and church siege. It's always stick with me do when I saw it on tv recently decided to rewatch it. So yes it is dated and the acting is awful, the love triangle is baffling, nearly all the characters are unlikable and the ending is vet abrupt. The church scenes though are still haunting, claustrophobic and scary, with the brightly coloured Apaches very unnerving. This is a good watch for western enthusiasts. I think tho that this could be good for a remake.
  • The least we can say is that for his last film as a producer, Val Lewton literally excelled, and in a domain where he was not used at all: the western. But if you watch this one very carefully, closely, you'll notice the Val Lewton's trademark; the atmosphere, the terrific atmosphere that he used for his famous, notorious RKO pictures horror films. Not in every scene, but during the second part. And the association between Hugo Fregonese and Val Lewton is a success, as was the combination Harry Joe Brown and Budd Boetticher for the Randolph Scott's western written by Burt Kennedy. Don't miss this one, it's Fregonese's best film.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    One of the worst-ever western films released - Ten times worse than any Spaghetti Western - Stephen McNally just could not hold a film on his own as this film more than demonstrates - Director Hugo Fregonese had no knowledge of how to direct a western and should have stayed in Argentine - The film is not worthy of even a Second Feature. Avoid it if you care for the Western genre.