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  • I found myself alone in an small theater yesterday watching "The Believer". The absence of a crowd didn't have any impact what so ever on my experience with this film.

    Daniel Balint is a promising new right wing extremist who, with his radical ideas and eloquence, wins over the minds of a small group of neo-Nazis. At first he expresses that he wants Jews dead because, as he states, anti-semitism is a human instinct. But Daniel is a Jew himself. He denies his roots, But as the movie progresses he must come to terms with who he is. And that's not always easy.

    Ryan Gosling who plays Daniel is a frightening good actor, who almost manages to persuade the audience of his anti-semitic views. I really can't praise Ryan Gosling enough! He could be one of the great new actors to come. The interesting aspect of this movie is the mental struggle in Daniels mind whether he's a Nazi or a Jew. Or both? It's about finding out who you are. The films poses some very intelligent questions, and provokes at times, and this is the films force. This movie is brilliant! Go see it!
  • I think I first saw Mr. Gosling in Murder by Numbers, in which he played half of a modern-day Leopold and Loeb murder team. In that good-but-not-great thriller, he did a fine job with an easy role: the smarmy manipulator who's convinced his Intellect is so superior to everyone else's that he has the right -- no, the obligation -- to kill those inferior to himself.

    In The Believer, Gosling plays the young fascist who really seems to believe the antisemitic vitrol he spews. His skinhead punk is just as scary, believable and *common* as Edward Norton's in American History X -- with the added layer of being from an Orthodox background. He has apparently convinced those around him that his fascination with all things Judaic is only an effort to "know his enemy thoroughly" -- nothing more.

    Gosling is nothing short of astounding in this role. He richly deserves all the honors bestowed upon him. If he continues to only get roles like Murder by Numbers, it will be a waste of a wonderful natural resource, kind of like strip mining in Yellowstone.
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    Antisemitism has come a long way since "gentleman's agreement"(1947).Kazan's attempt seems rather timid and tame today."The believer " sets the record straight.It's one of the most convincing works in the field.

    It's all the more disturbing as the hero is a Jew joining the neonazis.And his behavior stems from his own education,his rebellion against the Torah:Abraham did really kill his own son,the Jew was made to comply with God's commandments;the hero finds similarities between the Nazis's and the Jews's beliefs ;both are the Chosen ones .What puzzles me is the fact that he wants to annihilate the Jews ,but he stills reads (and respects) the Bible(One shall not be naked in front of it for flesh is impure).

    His arguments are sometimes disquieting (hints at Marx,Freud and Einstein) but finally it boils down to "we hate the Jews because we have to".

    Danny is definitely a complex character,caught in a web of contradictions.One of the strongest scenes shows former victims of the Nazis during WW2;it's of course with them that we side ,and whatever Danny says about how he despises their passivity ,his protected life makes him incapable of true grit.

    Spoilers Danny's final sacrifice is revealing:if God's wrath had killed him as pharaoh's tribe drowned in the tide (eg if he had accidentally been killed during one of his terrorisma acts or sentenced to death by a human court),the movie would have been a religious one (God's victory on evil).Danny chose the other way out.They will be speaking for a long time of the final sequence :it resembles an atheist version of that of "Jacob's ladder".The stairs and the teacher's sentence have something of Borges.End of spoilers.

    To say that "the believer" is unique is to state the obvious.Even more intriguing,the most celebrated names (Theresa Russel and Billy Zane) are only supporting actors.At a time when graveyards are often profaned,when the far right wing's bad moon is on the rise almost everywhere ,this kind of film has become a necessity.Henry Bean is a very clever director and I hope to see more of his films in the future.
  • When I read a description of this film, I thought it would go overboard in the violence and "shock sequences." I was relieved and impressed that it left most of the violence to the imagination. The shock value comes from other places--the content, the dialogue. This is a very thought-provoking and smart movie, not at all preachy (and it easily could have been preachy). The acting is unforced and its story does not fall into the "American History X" trap: Its main character does not become an "all race loving" good guy. The protagonist in "The Believer" is a tortured soul, and his fate (although somewhat predictable) is fitting after the events in the film. This movie is another example that cable movies occasionally surpass theatrical movies in their subject matter and execution. Very well done.
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    People are fascinated by the outlandish and irreverent. This film fits those appetites A self-hating Jew has been done before in film, but not with quite as much gusto and relentlessness. Ryan Gosling does a fantastic job as a self-destructive human who takes things in life far too seriously. A Jewish nazi is a repulsive concept to many, despite several thousand Jews in the Third Reich being of Jewish origin. Jewish self-hatred was also common during and after the Jewish atrocities of World War 2. But this puppy takes self-hatred to new heights. It is interesting to view as viewing a train wreck with multiple deaths and massive destruction. We try to tear our eyes away, but we repeatedly seed out the details of the accident. Just convert the train wreck to a human and you have the reason to watch this mesmerizing film.
  • "The Believer" contains rare insights into Jewish identity, and it's a shame that the film was withheld from mainstream audiences due to ongoing controversy. But it deals with an ugly subject, and it handles that subject in an ambiguous way that makes many people, including many Jews, uncomfortable. Make no mistake about it, though: the film is uncompromisingly pro-Jewish, and the director, himself a Jew, has said that he became more religious because of his work on the film. Ironically, the film is likely to resonate the most with Jews, though it also contains universal themes familiar to anyone who has ever struggled with faith.

    The idea of a white supremacist who's secretly Jewish is not new to me. I've long known about Frank Collin, who caused a national controversy in the 1970s when he planned to have his neo-Nazi group march in a predominantly Jewish suburb of Skokie, Illinois. It was later discovered that Collin's father was not only Jewish but a Holocaust survivor. This case is so bizarre that it leads one to assume the guy was simply insane. While there may be some truth to that assumption, it isn't a satisfactory explanation. What would possibly lead a Jew to join a group that believes in the inherent evil of all Jews? What is such a person thinking? How does such a person live with himself, rationalize his own actions?

    What "The Believer" accomplishes is to go inside the head of one such person and provide a compelling, believable explanation for how such a person could exist. The film is based loosely on a 1960s incident in which a high-ranking member of the KKK was discovered to be Jewish. The movie updates the story to modern times and depicts the young man, Danny, as a skinhead rather than a Klansman. His characterization is speculative but reveals a deep understanding of human nature.

    What's truly bizarre about this story is that Danny never abandons his Jewish roots entirely. After attending a neo-fascist meeting, he goes home to his family, whom he treats with respect. He even performs Jewish rituals in private. Yet he terrorizes a Jewish kid on the subway, tells his neo-Nazi buddies that he wants to assassinate a prominent Jewish diplomat, and spouts what sounds on the surface like typical white supremacist ideology. But he's not, as we might suspect, a hypocrite saying things he doesn't believe, or a two-faced lunatic. His philosophy is surprisingly coherent. Sure, he's a walking contradiction, but so are many other people who have a love-hate relationship with their religious background.

    His anti-Semitic beliefs all revolve around a single idea: he thinks Jews are too weak and passive. Sometimes he adopts a macho outlook, since he doesn't want to be associated with a people stereotyped as brainy intellectuals. On a deeper level, he dislikes the persecution theme in Jewish history and culture. But is this theme a sign of weakness or strength? Danny isn't sure. He eventually decides that Jews gain strength from their persecution; they seem to grow stronger the worse they're treated, and the biggest threat to their survival is not those who want to destroy them but those who don't care. This is a far more Jewish idea than an anti-Semitic one. Several Jewish holidays, including Passover, Purim, and Chanukah, commemorate events where Jews grew strong after periods of persecution. Many Jews today believe that assimilation into the culture is a greater danger than genocide, because it could signal the disappearance of Jews as a distinct people. As Irving Kristol once remarked, "The problem is that they don't want to persecute us, they want to marry us."

    The implication is that Danny actually admires Judaism, and that his anti-Semitism is his own warped way of affirming his Jewish identity in a world where, he fears, Jews are increasingly seen as irrelevant--not loved or hated but simply ignored. His ambivalent feelings escalate as the movie progresses. When he has his neo-Nazi buddies deface a synagogue, he can't bring himself to damage the Torah scroll, and he secretly takes it home with him. His intimate knowledge of Jewish beliefs and practices looks strange to his fellow skinheads, to say the least. He tells them that he studies these things in order to know the enemy, pointing out that Eichmann did the same thing. Do they buy this explanation? Apparently they do, but Danny's girlfriend is a little smarter than that, and she finds herself strangely drawn to the religion he's running away from.

    Like "American History X," this movie contains disturbing scenes where the protagonist articulately expresses his bigoted ideas. There are other intelligent characters who argue back, but not everything he spouts gets answered, so I can understand why this movie makes some viewers uncomfortable. In one particularly distasteful scene, Danny mocks Holocaust survivors, and while they do answer him eloquently for the most part, his raising of the old "sheep to the slaughter" canard is left open.

    Nevertheless, this a powerful and compelling film, with a lead performance by Ryan Gosling that manages to rival Ed Norton's Oscar-nominated performance in "American History X." We see early on that Danny is capable of doing appalling things, but his moral conflicts are then presented so persuasively that we cannot help but empathize with him. The climax is painfully ambiguous. Those who are looking for easy answers may want to skip this film. But they will be missing out on what is easily the most authentic and profound exploration of Jewish self-hatred ever portrayed on screen.
  • I enjoyed watching this film. The passion that Ryan Gosling displays in this movie is amazing for an actor his age. As far as the subject matter of the movie, the religious aspects seemed a little fuzzy. It's layered in Jewish theology, however, it's not as clear at times.I was troubled at times by the message that the movie was trying to make. It seemed at times like Danny was suffering from split personality disorder rather than just going through a phase of confusion and self-hate. I think that a lot of the neurotic behavior shown by Danny was done on purpose to further emphasize the struggle taking place inside of him.

    This movie may disturb some and confuse others but the acting is pretty good. Ryan did his best to keep this movie coherent but he can't work miracles. Good acting, shaky story.
  • I am amazed how little this impact this film has made. It looks like its distribution around 2001/9/11 events and the fact that some American Jewish circles feared that it can be mis-interpreted led to a limited distribution. However, the directing of Henry Bean, the acting of Ryan Gosling, and the strong treatment of a difficult subject should have led to more respect than this movie received.

    'The Believer' is the story of a young Jewish boy in today's America. Raised in a religious environment he is asking questions that are not unusual for a young Jewish person two or three generations after the Holocaut. Where was God during the Holocaust, and why did the Jewish people did so little to resist their oppressors? He is obviously giving the wrong answers, and not only loses his faith, but falls into the trap of self-hate, becoming a neo-Nazi and a Jew-hater, a self-hater in other words.

    There are many things that can be said and discussed around this theme. The character may seem paradoxical, but it is not impossible. The fact that the story is loosely inspired by a true character is not that relevant, what is important is that we can believe the motivations of the character and understand his evolution. Certainly a film to watch and think about.
  • wumbi8 December 2021
    Following along a man who is struggling with his own identity and battling his own believes. Visually it doesn't look very good, the whole thing looks very amateurish but it works I guess, since the main theme is about the character. It's a disturbing look at the neo-nazi movement yet it's very though provoking and greatly moving. Ryan Gosling portrayal of this articulate jewish neo-nazi is just perfect, you'd hate him but also feel for him in some way. The ending is inconclusive and very thought provoking. I thoroughly enjoyed this but I feel like it may not be for everyone.
  • The Believer is the kind of film that has social relevance beyond the contents of the actual film. Highly-censored through corporate teamwork, The Believer was never picked up by a major distribution house because of its provocative subject matter. The film demands a re-examination of beliefs and a discussion. Isn't this the kind of provocative free-thinking that the medium is about? The Believer is one of the top 5 films i've seen in the last few years, in regards to disturbing consciousness. It is the kind of movie that can help us understand one another a little better. A MUST SEE!
  • In this strange yet fasincating movie Ryan Gosling demonstrates he's a great actor. He usually is a man of few words in his movies but here he does more talking here than usual. He plays a Jewish man who didn't like his religious classes when young who has turned into a Neo Nazi. He joins up with a new facist organization falls for the daughter of one of the ring leaders, plants bombs and other things but seems to pull back when it comes to major destruction, murder or bombing. There is a good supporting cast including Teresa Russell, Billy Zane as the ringleaders and Summer Phoenix as the love interest.

    Strange and different movie.
  • Like "Romper Stomper" and the intensely powerful "American History X," here we have another brilliant film which revolves around National Socialism and the fiercely racist ideals behind it. This movie, however, varies strongly from the two previously mentioned in that it seems to have been researched far more heavily, and, focuses on not a general Neo-Nazi or skinhead, but on a young Jewish man—who has turned to Neo-Nazis and fascism for strength. This film revolves around a young man who was born and raised into Judaism only to become heavily fed up with the styles, rules, rituals, and apparent hypocrisies therein. Ever since his youth he'd been questioning the Jewish faith and the very meaning of being Jewish. The film follows him as he struggles with the faith he was raised with and the Nazi ideals he adopts against it. Through it all, he also struggles with his own identity and the hypnotic way that these two opposing ideologies have power over people. On top of that, he's later recruited by a group of neo-fascists, so to speak, looking to make fascism a reputable political movement, much like Communism has evolved into Democratic societies these days as Socialism. Here's the breakdown: The Good: --The acting, for the most part is excellent. --The amount of information about both Nazism and Judaism is staggeringly well researched. At least, that's how it seems. --Nice cinematography and atmosphere. --Interesting story. Didn't Hurt It, Didn't Help: --Decent music. --This film focuses very little time on "Neo-Nazis versus everybody;" it's more about Nazism and Judaism butting heads. The Bad: --Often times with movies of this nature, Nazi Movies, there is strong violence used in part to hammer home the intensity of the subject matter. This film focuses on the ideologies more than the violence and as such, actually doesn't feel as powerful as, say, "American History X." --During flashback sequences where we see the main character in his youth in school, the kid playing the part isn't exactly a great actor. --Somewhat predictable ending. The Ugly: --With the ideologies, stories, and characters—there's an awful lot going on in this film. Unfortunately, when the movie ends, if feels like there was a lot left unanswered, or simply, not fully explored. Memorable Scene: --There were actually quite a few. For me, it was the first several times we get to know the girl who becomes the main character's love interest—and all the ways it seems she's just not right in the head. Acting: 8/10 Story: 9/10 Atmosphere: 7/10 Cinematography: 8/10 Character Development: 9/10 Special Effects/Make-up: 0/10 (Movie didn't require any) Nudity/Sexuality: 3/10 Violence/Gore: 6/10 (Not as much violence as is common in films of this type) Dialogue: 9/10 (Some brilliant conversations and ideas throughout) Music: 7/10 Direction: 8/10 Cheesiness: 1/10 Crappiness: 0/10 Overall: 9/10 Be prepared to stomach a lot of harsh words and racism, but this is an intense film with a lot going on. Another one recommended to those with an interest in National Socialism, Judaism and their histories and ideologies. Full-fledged Nazis, ironically, will not like many of the directions this movie takes, and neither might serious Jews—the views expressed in this film are that strong. My final rating comes from the overall intelligence and strength of the film, despite is drawbacks.
  • Aggressive and highly-intellectual skinhead Danny (Ryan Gosling) enjoys spending his time getting into trouble and beating up the local Jewish population, whilst proudly displaying his swastika-branded t-shirt. Only Danny has a secret, one that if revealed to his gang of like-minded hoodlums would land him in hot water and would probably lead to his murder - he was born and raised a Jew. Falling in with respected racist and anti-Semite Curtis Zampf (Billy Zane), he is forced to put his violent behaviour behind him in order to spread the hate in an intellectual way. As his hatred for the Jewish community increases, so does his guilt, and so begins a long and confused path for Danny.

    I'd heard great things about this film, but I found myself disappointed as the opening scene played out in front of me, which sees Danny frighten a young Jew on a train before violently attacking him in the street. I thought this was going to be another Romper Stomper and American History X inspired neo-Nazi film that would offer nothing new. Yet as the film went on, and Ryan Gosling shows why he is probably the most talented young actor working in film today, I was completely engrossed. Danny's character is so fascinating and conflicted that he drives the entire film. There are no clichés here. One of the key scenes in the film is when Danny sits down with a journalist to talk about the Jewish problem. He is asked why he hates the Jews. Danny comes up with an unconvincing argument about the ways Jews like to have sex. He simply does not know why. And when he is confronted by the same journalist about if he himself is a Jew, Danny holds a gun to the journalists head and threatens that if he were to print that information, he will kill himself. Danny has more hatred for himself than for anything else. Fascinating stuff.

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    I'd heard about this film when it won the Sundance prize, and immediately thought, given the accolade and the premise, that it had to be great. I also assumed it would be ultra-disturbing, so being somewhat squeamish, I waited a long time to actually see it.

    What a disappointment.

    The idea that a religious Jew could become a Nazi is indeed compelling, but this film never lets the viewer in on the WHY behind the main character (Balint's) decision, so, to continue watching, you just have to take it on faith that for some reason he has his reasons for inspiring a group of fascists to begin executing Jews. This, maybe I could have lived with.

    But when this anti-Semitic Jew brings his thuggish skinhead buddies into a temple and has misgivings, here is where the lack of character development really becomes a problem. I could live with the assumption that for some reason this Jew's a Nazi, but, without any insight into the character, this business of his conflict, a seeming revelation of complexity, is just plain confusing.

    Then, it commits the sin so many independent films do...by believing its overlong dialogue and speech scenes are compelling enough to drive a story forward. But this is minor in comparison to the nonsensical protagonist and the un-paid-off story lines: Balint shoots a fellow Nazi, Drake, when Drake discovers that Balint is wearing a prayer shawl under his skinhead clothes (again -- WHY???) I assumed he killed Drake, but, he doesn't...shouldn't there be some resolution to this turn of events, perhaps some jeopardy for Balint? For example -- your fellow Nazis find out you shot one of their own...shouldn't there be some sense that maybe Balint's life is now in jeopardy? Also, the leaders (played by Theresa Russell and Billy Zane) find out off-screen that Balint is a Jew. Shouldn't this also be a moment of high tension? This is a great, intriguing premise, but, the film is an extreme disappointment. I expected at some point that everything would tie together in a way that formed a cohesive, powerful, compelling, morally ambiguous narrative, but it doesn't. It's extremely unsatisfying throughout, and I really believe that its status and acclaim come from the premise alone.
  • Inspired by real events, The Believer tells the story of a young Jewish man who is contradicted by his beliefs in neo-nazism. Ryan Gosling (Remember the Titans) plays Danny Balint, a Jew by birth and upbringing, who's ideas about the religion lead him into a world of denial and hate. Flashbacks show the viewer how Danny struggled with his early teachings of the faith and his lack of understanding would result in his decision to be a practicing, race-hating skinhead.

    Along the way, Danny meets up with Lina and Curtis played graciously by Theresa Russell and Billy Zane who want to recruit Danny and use his persuasive talents to advance their cause as fascists. It is in his first meeting with this couple that Danny also meets Carla (Summer Pheonix), a confused young girl who eventually befriends Danny and soon begins her quest to best understand the Jews through their language and traditions.

    In a later scene, Danny finds himself at a white supresmist training camp and meets other skinheads with the same hatred and desire to rid themselves of the Jewish population. Danny befriends the group and garnishes their respect with his fighting tactics, and on one fateful night, the group land themselves in jail after initiating a fight with two blacks on the street.

    It is here that the most disturbing and challenging scene of the movie takes place where the group is forced by the courts to enter counselling for their crime. This counselling would include Jews who survived the holocust who tell their story to the unappreciated skinhead audience. While the others argue that the Holocost never occurred, Danny is haunted by the story of an elderly man who tells of a German Soldier who stabbed and killed his son with a bayonette during World War II.

    This then leads Danny down two separate paths. On one side, he is a race hating monger, who begins to build bombs for the purpose of blowing up a synagogue. The other, a conflicted man of the Judaism faith who teaches Hebrew to his girlfriend and still practices the basics of the religion (don't light the candles at Yom Kippur before eating).

    Director/writer Henry Bean does a masterful job of keeping the pace of the movie going, while not being preachy or dumbing down to the audience. The director crafts the film and does not shy away from religious interpretations (why can Jews have cheese with meat, but they can have chicken with milk), without giving us his version of the answers. Dannys scene with the reporter from the New York Times is both honest and gripping in its language and its portrayal of a man trying to justify his racist views.

    Portrayed as an articulate and intelligent youth, Ryan Gosling sparkles on the screen and gives a commanding presence that is award winning material. He reveals the character to be someone of higher intelligence who hates his religion because he just can't understand all its principles. When Danny is first confronted with an opportunity to kill a Jew, he can't bring himself to promote the results that he preaches.

    In short, the movie has powerful moments, great acting and tells an unbelievable story of one man's quest to understand the world he was brought up in. B+
  • Story about a Jewish boy (Ryan Gosling) who becomes a skinhead and is out to kill all Jews when he's older. But his religion keeps pulling at him...

    VERY overpraised movie. It's somewhat well-done but I've seen these characters and situation before. And the ending was VERY predictable. Also some of the sound recording was pretty terrible--some sentences were incomprehensible. Also plot motivation was muddy--I'm STILL not sure what the hell Billy Zane and Theresa Russell were doing here. They were good but I never got a firm grip on their characters.

    Ryan Gosling is the whole show. He's a wonderful actor. His hatred of Jews (in some of his speeches) seems way too realistic, but his love of his faith comes through too. It's a very tricky role but he pulls it off. This is worth seeing for him.

    Just be warned--the anti-Semitism is STRONG (as it should be to make its point). It is necessary, but it made me angry--and I'm not even Jewish! So be prepared to sit through some truly disgusting comments. I almost turned off twice because it really hits hard. But again, it was necessary for the integrity of the film.
  • Danny Balint (Ryan Gosling) is angry. He questions his Jewish heritage and challenges his faith. The movie starts with him bullying a Jewish boy on the subway in New York. He joins a small group of fascists led by Curtis Zampf (Billy Zane) and Lina Moebius (Theresa Russell). Danny pushes for the group to start killing Jews. Carla Moebius (Summer Phoenix) finds him fascinating. Curtis doesn't want to go down that road again while Lina finds it appealing for their cause even if she doesn't believe in it. Reporter Guy Danielsen is writing about the right wing movement. Danny joins up with others as his star rises in the movement.

    This is a character study of anger and self-hatred. Ryan Gosling is brilliantly unbalanced as he challenges religious authority. He's also superficially very convincing in his insane rants. More than anything, he's very charismatic. It is a bone chilling performance.
  • None-the-less, The Believer is an interesting movie. Many points are made between the Jewish and Christian Faiths and issues on the Nazi reign and its terror. Dealing with self hating and the power to decide and choose, The Believer is a movie not to be missed. The ending is perfect, whether you understand it or not. What the character is dealing with, he is now and still caught in confusion. Still unable to decide and face his reality, his reality in death is once again in limbo.
  • The movie opens with a quote, "I love and Hate, but I don't know why" or something along those lines. I don't know if you have ever had an ex-girlfriend or anything like that. But I do know that people who have had bad break-ups, claim to hate the person that they broke up with even though they really love the person. The love is very strong, yet they can no longer be with the person that they love which leads to feelings of hatred that are actually sourced in love.

    This movie really played on Danny's relationship with God in a similar way, and this is just one of the ideas that "The Believer" provoked. In the movie Danny, as a child, "dumps" HaShem (literally "the name"--the Jewish God) right in the middle of the classroom. While he hates God on the one hand, on the other hand he loves God and desires to think about Judiasm and Torah all the time. Thus he becomes a Nazi. He can obsess over God and Judiasm, yet still claim to hate them both. This is an extreme version of a dynamic which is at play amongst many Jews and non-Jews today. They spite religion, hate practitioners, and despise God. The movie really outlines this idea well, and it really answers how one can come to love God without this hatred. One must lose his ego and submit to God and his faith based Law.

    Because of the protagonist's hatred for God and Torah he believes in the anti-thesis of the Jewish God and Torah--that is Nazism. Yet in order for him to hate God, the Jews and Torah, he must first love it and assert its truth. You can't hate something you don't even believe in. Thus it is absurd to call Danny an atheist in any sense. His hatred presupposes a strong belief and a strong love. When he sees the Torah being desecrated he realized this dynamic, this love-hate relationship between God and himself. His obsession with Jews, God, and Torah was his love not his hatred, but yet he could not lower his own ego enough to say that he loves it. He could not submit God and the Torah.

    This happens to many Jewish people as well as non-Jewish people today. I hope that by making this dynamic explicit, people will read this article and realize that this dynamic is at play in themselves, and it will help them submit in love, rather than fight in hatred. That is why this movie is so good, it makes clear something so difficult to explicate. In order to get a lot from watching this movie one must really think about the psychological and theological dynamics that are at play. It is really very accurate and very thought provoking.
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    As the title of this review says, I now have really noticed how much me and the character Danny Balint had in common about "God." I was raised a Roman Catholic Christian. However, it wasn't until I learned of the fanatical born-again Christian movement that pretty much consumed me at a time of my life when I was vulnerable and weak to the whole notion of depending on "God" as my only hope and happiness. Then I learned from the born-again perspective about a "God" that they said was all loving, yet, if you didn't believe this, this, and this, you were going to the lake of fire, also known as hell. Me being very hard on myself and negative already, thought of myself going to hell, because I couldn't seem to believe what they said as true Christianity or feel that "saved" experience. It really frustrated me and I developed an anger against "God" and Jesus. It made me feel so intense at how a "God" could just damn people who thought differently, especially the "if you don't believe this, this and this you will burn" thought process. However, times have changed, and I now realize that these born-again Christian people for the most part, are dysfunctional people who need to believe this fantasy. They are weak, insecure, ignorant and can't think for themselves. Many had serious problems already for them needing to be "born-again." Now of course this doesn't apply to all born-again Christians, some are less fanatical than others and don't have or to a lesser degree of ignorance and non-realistic views. But it applies to a lot of them. I didn't join an anti-Christian group and attack Christians but I felt the anger and rage that Danny felt. I was going back and forth on my beliefs. One minute i'm a bible believer, the next i'm not a bible believer, I loved "God" and next I hated "God", first I was against catholics (as Born agains are and vica versa) next I was with catholics against born agains...I had a messed up psychological concept of having double and contradicting beliefs, I didn't know who I was and wanted to be what others were. I see Danny Balint and I know what he went through because I feel I went through a similar thought process. All though I still have a loyalty to Roman Catholicism as a heritage feeling and I do feel if any "church" has a right to be called "The Church" it is the Roman Catholic Church due to historical facts. I consider myself an agnostic, because to be honest with you, I REALLY DON'T KNOW and as my life gets more interesting, I really don't care. I think Ryan Gosling is a little overrated, a little stiff. But, he did a decent job here. People can believe what they want, if it makes them a better person than that is all that matters. It is when they impose their beliefs - and that is all they are...beliefs - on others that it becomes ignorant and wrong. And it isn't only the ridiculous born-again cult-like movement that has grown over the years, the same goes for Roman Catholicism, other Protestant sects, Judaism, Islam and other religions. They all to me have ignorant and wrong belief systems that make me shake my head, lol. But, back to the movie, I can relate big time.
  • As far as I'm concerned, there's isn't a better movie about anti-semitism and youth as "American History X" but this movie came close. I was surprised to see young Gosling pull off and really out-perform himself in this role. Excellent writing with a fantastic group of young, talented actors. Definitely worth seeing.

    8/10
  • Interesting story, very good sometimes, but I was expecting much more from a movie with this thematic.

    I felt that everything was incredibly rushed and even Gosling didn't took from the role what I was expecting.

    I still think it's an interesting film, to be seen, but could have been exceptional with the right treatment.
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    It is almost a sort of shame that the ever-hot topic of racism/anti-Semitism nearly outshines the more central struggle with spirituality and religion that Danny is going through. Many fascist/skinhead types seem to confuse or blend race and religion when considering Jews and Judaism. Danny certainly seems confused in this, but comes around toward the end of the film when he suggests to the fascist big-wigs that the way to eradicate Jews is to love them, absorb them (because, he believes, Judaism thrives on being hated, separate). My notion of Judaism has long been the same as that of Christianity and Islam: ALL adherents thrive on being hated, on being an underdog, and lose their power when they are most widely accepted and tolerated (Christians seem to have gotten more of being thrown to the lions than the Romans did, and Islamic pride seems to get stronger the worse the rest of the world treats its disciples). These religions are like three awful, brutish brothers, always at each other's throats, and, in the end, essentially nihilistic individually. Because of this, I can understand Danny's spirituality problem (but am left wondering why he did not consider religions outside of the three great desert religions of the middle east). Danny has few anchors to the earth (pagan?) world, a pair of kind old friends (from youth, the most pagan time in life), his weird but spiritually hungry lover (who seems to be looking for anything to fill a hole in her soul ...which is where Christians get so many of their converts); but there are many more negative influences present in the film, and these absorb him. Add to this the fact that he considers his god a bully, and Judaism more about doing things than believing (which is true with many Christians and Muslims), and you've got a foul spiritual mix. Once ousted in the papers, Danny would clearly not find a home in either of the two worlds he is a part of, and so suicide seems an easy solution (a physical solution, just like pumping iron and beating up kids in the street). Danny's fatal flaw seems to be that he keeps questioning and cannot just accept faith and submit to god (which works within the box of the film, though thankfully not in the universe outside of the three desert religions!). The final sort of afterlife scene was my favorite of the film and shows this clearly: Danny's former teacher stands in the stairwell, trying to get him to engage in a discussion on a religious argument while Danny keeps running up the stairs. "There's nothing up there," says the teacher, but Danny keeps going. A rather frightening image when you think about it ...and one adherents to the religion can keep for themselves.
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    Spoilers. Don't read further, if you don't want to get your evening ruined.

    The Believer has, by some journalists been called the new American History X, but I think there is a great difference. American History X is about a neo-nazi who discovers that nazism isn't what he thought it was. But The Believer isn't most about that. As I see it, it's more about jewrysm (maybe not the correct spelling). Throughout the entire movie it tries to explain why he question the jewrysm so much.

    Where I think this movie lags a bit is where it shows why he starts to go back to jewrysm again. I think it skips too fast through it, and doesn't explain it good enough. And another thing is the ending. I doesn't understand it. It's probably me who is a bit slow there, but I get it. Maybe the director has thought about how this infinite nothingness was, and if maybe it wasn't good as the jews think? But I can't come to any conclusion with the ending, maybe someone who is smarter than me could email me and explain it to me?

    One of the best thing in this movie is Ryan Gosling's performance. In my eyes he does a very good job, and I am pretty sure that we will see more of him in the future. Just like American History X helped on Edward Norton's career, I would hope this helps Ryan Gosling too.

    I'll advice all who hasn't seen it, and read further, even though there was spoilers to see it. It really is worth it. I gave it 7.
  • I was really disappointed with this movie. It just DOES NOT make sense. I cannot believe all the 5 star reviewers. Does basic storytelling matter to you people? OK, where to begin......

    Gosling's Danny Bolint is a militantly self-hating Jew. Why? Not sure really. Through use of some clumsily overdramatic flashbacks, we learn that Danny enraged his Hebrew School teachers by challenging long accepted laws of Judaism. OK, fine. So Danny learns some untraditional teachings from his father. How that evolves into violent hatred for his own religion is anyone's guess.

    Well, as another reviewer wrote with the title, "You better believe this movie deserves 5 stars" explains:

    "Soon thereafter we learn that Danny himself was a yeshiva student. He's a Jew who has become a Nazi skinhead."

    EXACTLY! Hey buddy, how do we go from point A to point B here? So his father teaches him some non-traditional interpretations of the Torah and suddenly he's some violent hard-core Jewish Nazi? Huh? I think we need A LITTLE more than that people! Another reviewer stated that "you could tear any movie apart if you wanted to." Perhaps that is true. BUT this is a FUNDAMENTAL part of this movie! Its a fascinating concept that deserves a reasonable explanation. This movie fails miserably on this crucial point, that alone should keep it from 5 stars, but of course, there is much more:

    OK, so after going into a synagogue, this violent Nazi who has no qualms about beating up Jewish kids, setting up bombs in synagogoes to kill dozens of Jews, has the uncontrollable urge to protect the Torah from his friends and other religous properties? Not just that, but he reveals his immense knowledge of Judaism in front all his fellow Nazis and gives them obvious hints that he's Jewish, for no apparent reason, throughout the film (ex. wearing a Hebrew cloth inside his shirt, keeping and protecting objects from the synagogue, goes to a Temple, says a Jewish prayer in his room and in front of fellow Nazis, teaching his bizarre girlfriend Hebrew. Why does she want to learn it? Don't ask me). Even though he says to the reporter that he would KILL HIMSELF if it was ever found out he was Jewish he gives these obvious clues throughout the film.

    When Danny was with his friend attempting to shoot at a Jewish couple, he finds he can't/won't do it, and then his Hebrew cloth is revealed to his friend who realizes he's Jewish. Danny then shoots at him and leaves the area........OK.....Soooo what happens to his friend? Is he dead? Is he injured? Does he survive to tell anyone? The character completely dissapears and we never hear what happened to him. Once again, thats amateurish storytelling at best, dissapearing characters is not a minor detail. Jeez, I would get upset if this happened at a local high school play, let alone an award-winner that I'm paying money for!

    Another unexplained event in the film is perhaps the best part: during the resensitivity seminar when Danny and his friends hear stories from Holocaust survivers. Danny offends the speakers and walks out prematurely even though the instructor warns him that he will be resentenced if he leaves. OK.......so what happens next? Does he go back to court? Is he sentenced to jail? Is he fined? Is he a fugitive? Better ask the 5 star reviewers, the fanatics in this website all these questions, because after watching the movie I can provide you with none.

    Keep in mind, I'm ignoring the emotionless and puzzling girlfriend played by Phoenix, Is she a Fascist? What are her politics? Why does she like Danny? Why does she like to get physically hit by Danny? Why Danny showed no anger/emotion at Phoenix or Zane when he saw them making love, the make out scene the day after , right when Danny just threw up, what exactly makes Danny so incredibly valuable to Zane and the fascists, Zane's laughable hairpiece, etc etc etc. Point is, I was willing to accept ALL that as being "minor", however I cannot accept the HUGE holes in the script. Basic points like why he's a Jewish Nazi, what turned this violent person around so dramatically, and the missing and unexplained characters/events throughout the film.

    Sorry for the long review, but I was truly disappointed with this film. Expected much better.
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