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  • Warning: Spoilers
    Sometimes I wonder where people come up with these superlatives; every movie is the worst or the best, etc. And often one person like Karl, is saying this is the WORST, while someone else is trying to say this is the BEST, about the very same movie. Its a silly kid's game like who's the prettiest???

    Okay, I'm not going to say this is the best, =) but;

    It is a very interesting movie, it communicates some very complex ideas and does it in a way that is aesthetically well done. Karl says the movie has an overload of clichés, and lists murder, arson and incest.

    First of all, murder and arson do actually occur on a fairly regular schedule on this planet, these acts themselves are something of a cliché, but;

    This movie outlines an intense angst in the hearts and minds of these two kids, and the arson is actually a fairly mild reaction to that frustration. I really argue intensely with Karl's assertion that these themes are portrayed in a manner that is a cliché. I think the incidents are quite surprising in their context in the film, and therefore, not possibly clichés.

    Secondly, there is no incest,,, one central point of the film is that Joseph believes Chloe to be his sister, but even though he is told otherwise, still wrestles with his intense feelings for her. The love for her that he has developed, thinking of her as a sister, can't be erased by learning the fact that she is not.

    I agree with Karl that the acting of the boy playing Joseph is remarkably perfect, but the Adele Haenel's performance is even more astounding to me. Her character is spell binding.

    All in all, I have watched this movie at least 50 times, (I work in a situation where I repeatedly have the opportunity to get caught up in it) and every time I've seen it, I find something new from it.

    When I was in film criticism classes, I was taught that the basic purpose of a film is to communicate ideas, and do so in a way that is unusual enough to interest and entertain the viewer. This film does that well, so I rated it at an 8. Its not the best, but it's light years away from being the worst. Films aren't a contest Karl, the good ones are works of art to be appreciated by someone who takes the time to do so.
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    After viewing this film, I found the script to be overly ambitious. Autism, failing child protection, child sexuality, incest, self-mutilation, child abandonment, suicide, child imprisonment, child gangs,... director Christophe Ruggia chose to stuff his script with a wide range of social issues. In my view too much for a film of 105 minutes, leaving me wondering occasionally which point the film was trying to make. I was left with the feeling that 'something' was missing. For instance: the transition of Chloé (Adele Haenel) from being aphephobic to the most huggable person in the world, happened so fast that it was almost incredible.

    The movie is highly advisable though. The cinematography of Eric Guichard is excellent, Vincent Rottiers makes an amazing debut and all in all the film will grab your attention from beginning to end. But above all, Christophe Ruggia dares to tackle very controversial subject, not by subtle suggestion, as is the norm nowadays, but by clearly showing what it's all about.
  • Joseph(Vincent Rottiers) is constantly running away from one children's home to the next with his non verbal, autistic sister, Chloe(Adele Haenel) who cannot stand to be touched by anyone. Only her brother is able to reach her, and she follows him as would a trained dog. With every escape the pair search for their childhood house, with false memories of a normal home life. They were actually abandoned by their mother at an early age.

    The two are caught once again and Chloe begins to improve with the help of a caring worker at the facility they are living at. Joseph resents the fact that his sister no longer needs him and becomes a thief and hooks up with Karim, another troubled boy.

    The three children make another getaway and find a house Chloe believes is their childhood residence. They rob the place and Joey burns it down, leading to more problems with the law, which are dealt with in an interesting manner. Les Diables is depressing but very realistic, and the two leads are extremely talented. They alone, are worth the price of admission.
  • I had a strange impression leaving the theater after "Les diables". I needed some hours to get back to reality. In some movies, you really have to convince yourself that the actors are really comedians, because they play in an amazing way.

    This movie tell us about a little 12 years old boy, Joseph, who's trying to reach his parents' house with his autist sister, Chloe. Both are orpheans and Joseph is the only one who's able to manage his sister. They don't know where the house exactly is, but Chloe often makes a glass-mosaic representing the building. They will follow their path, purchased by cops and educating staff of different institutions.

    I have to say that the rythme of the movie, the quality of the screenplay and, of course, the interpretation are all great, and left me the impression that, sometime, beauty is much more simple as what we believe.

    A great and sober love movie, hope everybody will have the opportunity to see it.
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    Usually, when I'm overwhelmed by a film, I'll give it 10; when I'm offended, I'll give it 1. As for this one, I was neither, so I rather gave it a mediocre mark.

    While the users with excellent comments are overwhelmed by the tight plot, beautiful cinematography and incredible acting, others are offended by its cruel and controversial scenes. I'm sure both side are understood here. I did appreciate all the efforts from filmmakers and actors, but I had to say I didn't receive much from this film.

    I don't think those two kids are feral at all. At least, behind every negative things they did, there are reasons we are capable of making out. I mean...yes, these two kids lived in the dark side of the society since their births, and it's the world who's responsible for all their abnormality and destructive behaviours, and then what? In the film, some others tried to retrieve this situation, but the two kids just didn't buy it and even went further under the pressure, which was understandable. And when I expected the real changes, the film cut out. **(mild spoiler)In the end, the society failed to accept them back while the two kids went on living in their own world. Now that's what disappointed and upset me. And I don't think the adult couple willingly accepted Chloe's hug was strong enough to put an end to the society's effort and also to this film.** In that case, the film's effort on me went halfway...

    Also, in my opinion any art work should be careful of handling controversial issues. They have to be worthy in a film to achieve the effects, otherwise it could be offending. "Hard Candy" seems to me the best negative example. Fortunately, this one was just OK for me. After all, they were kids. Though doubting the realistic possibility of their extreme behaviours, I can always understand them.

    However, I believe the filmmakers agree with me on that understanding is not enough for those kids living on the edge of society. We don't want them to end up lost causes.

    Then there should have been more to this film.
  • Wow, where did these actors come from? Throughout the film, I was in turmoil who was the better actor, Adele Haenel or Vincent Rottiers. She did an outstanding job in an almost non-speaking role and he was very morose, gloomy and violent as well. I do believe that to get children (although they're almost teens) to act this way is very hard. And to accomplish it in two actors, is very admirable. Ruggia did an excellent job, maybe the casting alone was 90 percent of that.

    Without spoilering anything, I would like to comment that the let's say, 'least boring scenes' between Haenel and Rottiers, to use a heavy understatement, have not been shot in a mainstream film, since Maladolescenza (1977) ( http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0076749/ ). I suppose Ruggia didn't care about American distribution, and rightly so. Take into account that Maladolescenza was shot in a very different era, where a lot more was possible, a much more permissive epoque when not EVERY bit of skin was declared porn as it is now, we have to salute Ruggia even more, and Haenel and Rottiers as well. Although ... I don't know what the reason is that Haenel has not made a film since Les Diables, and Rottiers has. If it is because of those 'least boring scenes', then that surely would be a pity, because then we would have lost a potentially great actress.
  • To Karl, who practically took a swing at the director of this fabulous film, honestly you have no idea.

    Please do tell me why this film was so bad? I found it inspiring and uplifting in a sense. I myself have an autistic brother and your dreadful use of the word "feral" was quite offensive.

    To say it was one of the worst films you have ever seen is a complete utter joke. The director and actors have put countless hours into this film and the intriguing storyline was moving. Many movies out there either have no storyline or lack of effort in not only the directing of the film but the lack of professionalism on the actors behalf.

    Again, I think you need to look at this film from a different angle as it seems you have only looked at it from a selfish point of view.

    For the record, I thought it was an astounding film, absolutely magnificent performances by Vincent and Adele. Top work!
  • Warning: Spoilers
    Its an ambitious film with the terribly weak script. A lot of completely pointless actions, without real twist and deeper meaning. There is Joseph, a problematic uncooperative violent boy and his heavily autistic sister, Chloe. The stress in on "heavily", because she is autistic to the point that she can hardly survive 24 hour without professional supervision. For some reason, out of blue, her problematic brother decides that they have to escape from a foster home where they were adopted together, to find their real mother. So he takes her with him, and then the long stream of running, violence, dangerous situations starts happening. In the end, of course, nothing good comes out of it, and film ends up with almost certainly tragic outcome. We are left hoping that at certain point, Chloe will get some adequate foster care, because Joseph, even if he manages to survive police gun shot that he gets in the end, probably will go to jail for a long time, for stabbing policeman, and all other crimes.. That probably would be good for Chloe, because Joseph seems to be useless and pointless in his actions from the beginning to the end, to the point that it is really difficult to identify with him, and wish him well through the most of the film.

    This is the biggest flaw of the movie - impossibility to identify with the actions of the Joseph, which is the only thing that leads the plot, because Chloe's mind is closed for the world , or she is at the mind level of 1 year old child, although she is 12 in the movie. Joseph is obsessed with Chloe, and the biggest shock for him is when he finally meets his biological mother, and learns from her that Chloe is not really his sister. He continues to treat her as a sister, however, terribly soon after that revelation he still ends up having sex with her, which probably should indicate that his initial obsession with running away with Chloe from the beginning of the movie must have been actually based on repressed sexual attraction. However, instead of sympathizing with Joseph, understanding that him facing and repressing his attraction must have been very hard, we kind of dislike him even more after this admission of sexual attraction, because we can't help thinking that engaging in sex with heavily autistic person who cannot really grasp with her mind what sex is, must be still an abuse. Assuming something different would be really cynical. After all this confusion, Joseph tries to seek help once again from his biological mother, but that attempt fails, and after that, as mentioned, we can just hope that Chloe will be placed somewhere safe, because Joseph is in overall bad news for anyone around him. It seems that we should be cheering for Joseph to escape with Chloe somewhere safe, but, frankly, it never looked like anything like a good idea, or something that we should hope for.

    I guess the only point where we can really understand Joseph is that he probably had no one to turn to for a help when he saw that a sexual tension was developing between him and the girl for whom he believed that she was his sister (its not clear till the end of the film whether she is for sure not his sister, but lets say she is not). However, it seems that the foster and correction system did work to the point that he could have turned to someone about it, at least according to the way the institution to where they were placed was shown in the movie. It simply seems that he was not ready to accept to be separated from Chloe, but hey, than it inevitably led to a tragedy. Joseph simply seems to be almost more mentally sick than Chloe, he is simply more shut down for anything coming from the outer world, and this is really too much for anyone to handle, including the viewer.

    This lack of any hope for these two characters makes this film to a certain point fake, pretentious, over-ambitious. Too much disturbing sneak peaking at tabooed aspects of teenage life, and too little work on a story. The two main actors are really good, but, overall, the film is missing the point in many aspects, and overdoing some pointless outrage towards the world and life in general.
  • cmmescalona26 June 2006
    Les diables is a powerful, delightful, poignant and terribly sad film. Hard to endure in many of its crucial moments. Definitely not a popcorn movie. This is a film with a lot of work in the script and a lot of masterful work in many other aspects.

    The acting is not only superb... it's mesmerising. I think about myself directing these two young actors into such a complicated argument and it sort of makes me shiver.

    This film seems to explode in your mind. The story is so engaging and powerful, you'll have the same experience many of us already have: it's very difficult to put it away for a long time.

    Cinematography is on par and above of the best french contemporary cinematographers. Lighting, locations, wardrobe and the whole aesthetic experience is so subtle that it goes under the skin unnoticed, but with a clear and powerful purpose. The dynamics are all well thought and paced to fit the crudeness of the story.

    But, above all, the acting reflects the most difficult human experiences in a world where all the characters have is each other. It's a fearful drive in the territory of love: its beauty, its bitterness, its bright and dark sides. All in all, a film about love where the most unexpected things will happen.
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    Chanced across this movie on the ever-reliable SBS television network tonight, and got hooked very quickly.

    After the "prison break-out" scenes at two-thirds of the way through I honestly thought that this movie should end. In fact I started to get annoyed with it at that point, but the relationship between the two leads was in fact extended in a completely different direction and the conclusion - that you only "have to sit down and push with your own two feet" - was well worth what seemed like a lengthy epilogue.

    In fact for me it was really the performances of the two leads that made this movie special. It's great to see such convincing performances from such young actors. It's certainly no Rain Man - thankfully. Joseph is particularly powerful as the Tom Cruise equivalent in the lengths that he goes to defend his "sister" - to the point of losing his own sanity. It's also no Shine - Chloe's almost wordless performance is really quite convincing without any of the effort that Geoffrey Rush had to make. I just hope she doesn't get type-cast.

    For the record, I don't think it's ever made clear that there is any direct family relationship between them, and in fact Chloe continues to seek her true "home" with Joseph's assistance - while he rejects his own.

    And ultimately it thereby becomes a story about family. Joseph rejects his true "family" when it is found, perhaps because he isn't satisfied that Chloe has found hers. When she wanders into her final ideal home and and hugs her final ideal parents (who Joseph holds at knife-point) it really gets rammed home that the only family they've ever had is each other.

    Sniff.

    Of course if you don't understand French and have to read the subtitles it's probably only a 7.5. And then I could spin a few more paragraphs about the story this tells about how we treat our children. But I won't.

    And having said ALL of that I do have some issues with some of the nudity in this movie. Having grown up in France I understand that it's "purely artistic" but I'm not sure that those standards apply in other countries.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    I don't know if you have seen Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange", but maybe you are aware of the scene where the lead character is forced to watch gruesome film sequences under the influence of nausea-inducing medication, whilst being tied down and having his eyes forced open by a speculum-like contraption. I mention this because it somehow is a very apt description of what watching "Les diables" felt like to me. I actually saw it when it first came out, about two years ago, and although I have forgotten most of the plot that feeling is still with me.

    Without "giving away" (in the widest possible sense) too much, "Les diables" is a film about two feral, orphaned siblings (the girl is supposedly autistic, and feral, while the boy is just feral) who run away from their orphanage and essentially go on a rampage, committing every monstrosity in the book of cliché'd filmmaking, including murder, arson and incest. I can only speculate about what the director, Christophe Ruggia, was trying to achieve, but at some point he must have decided to patch over the undeniably weak script with scenes of crassness so that the film would be labeled "disturbing" -- and quite a number of viewers seem to have fallen for this gimmick. The only thing it did for me was to make an already mediocre movie memorably bad -- "disturbing", no doubt, but not in the way the director could have intended.

    To give credit where it's due, and without taking anything away from the film's god-awfulness, I thought that the acting of Vincent Rottiers, who plays the brother ("Joseph"), was quite remarkable. Overall, this could quite possibly be the worst film I have ever seen in my life. May god will that it remains thus.
  • Credit where it's due: filmmaker Christoph Ruggia and cowriter Olivier Lorelle penned an astonishingly fierce screenplay. Where it occasionally diverts even slightly from its core strength one can readily discern it's troubled by comparison; as a prime example, consider the major moment and curious plot point coming shortly after the one-hour mark. However, in its heavy focus on Joseph, Chloé, and the relationship between them, the writing is sharp and exquisite, often altogether downright brutal, and absolutely spellbinding. Chloé, autistic and all but entirely nonverbal, struggles to interact and grapple with the world, and be understood, in those ways she knows how. Joseph is as angry as the sun is hot, not to mention emotionally disturbed, and he readily lashes out at a moment's notice, while also being immensely protective of Chloé. Put the two of them together and the question quickly becomes who needs who more, and who truly understands who better. These dynamics resonate so deeply that they organically foster significant, heavy emotions regardless of what's happening in a specific scene - but to that point, the scene writing is so strong as Joseph and Chloé stumble about, with increasingly desperate situations in which for that ferocious push and pull to make waves, that the narrative which manifests is inescapably absorbing as the children move forward to an unknown, uncertain future.

    That's one thing 'Les diables' unquestionably has going for it. Another is the cast. Everyone on hand gives tight, striking performances, and where usually I'd criticize acting that's as brusque and forceful as it is here - definitely echoing the tenor of Ruggia's direction - in this case I think that aggressive drift is very appropriate for this tale, and these characters. My commendations to all, though by all means Vincent Rottiers is rather captivating all by himself as anguished Joseph. He embodies the furious, bitter agitation of the boy all too well, to the point that it's somewhat difficult to separate part from player, but also illustrates gratifying nuance and range in betraying the underlying hurt and vulnerability. Personally, I'm surprised Rottiers wasn't more celebrated for his portrayal, because I think he's terrific. In fairness, in subsequent years he was quickly outshone by costar Adèle Haenel, who at this point needs no introduction. Even in only her debut role, thirteen years old at the time this was released, Haenel demonstrates a wholehearted commitment in her performance, and an unwavering passion and vitality as an actor, that exemplifies why she would go on to earn such stellar acclaim. If anything I think she's limited here by the nature of how Chloé is written, and perhaps in turn by Ruggia's direction, yet for the fact that even here she impresses so greatly is a fabulous testament to her skills.

    We have to talk about the elephant in the room, though, and to do so, it's worth drawing comparisons to another French filmmaker. Louis Malle was a man who quite courted controversy in his career, for he had no qualms about broaching taboo topics - and he committed fully to realizing those topics on film, whatever that meant. Malle was never less than totally sincere, however, so while matters like underage nudity or incest can and should make us flinch in real life, his pictures come across as meaningful storytelling and exploration of these topics instead of the tawdry, dubious exploitation it could so easily be. As 'Les diables' delves into similar murky territory I believe in all earnestness that by and large the inclusions here, uncomfortable at best and almost entirely unwatchable at worst, do come from a place of simply relating a story, ugly though it might get, and not ducking away from the most unseemly aspects of it. On the other hand, the way the camera lingers on Haenel during her nude scenes, and the length and number of them, is distinctly disconcerting. To whatever extent the feature is only being true to the saga on hand, I don't think there's much arguing that it does also cross a line to be more than a little unscrupulous and indiscrete. Unfortunately, that foul notion is bolstered by the revelations in recent years about Ruggia's appalling behavior toward Haenel throughout the production. There's no excuse for what multiple people have accordingly corroborated, and that paints in a new, seedier light the degree to which Ruggia, as director, chose to showcase a thirteen-year old child as he did.

    Though it's off-putting at first I do overall admire the direction here from a fundamental standpoint of orchestrating shots and scenes, and guiding the cast. And in all other ways this is splendidly well done, including those stunts and effects that are employed, production design, cinematography, editing, and so on. It bears repeating, too, that Rottiers' debut as Joseph, and Haenel's as Chloé, are outstanding, matching the stark, powerful writing note for note. In every way that counts, this movie is superb - I dare say, even better than I had hoped - a fine credit to (most) all involved, and easily deserving of a solid, high recommendation. This makes it all the more regrettable that Ruggia's poor behavior, and his dubious decisions regarding a select few shots and scenes, append a sketchy, wary asterisk to the title, and very much dampen the enthusiasm of any recommendation. For all the hard work and intelligence that went into 'Les diables,' and those ways in which it succeeds so roundly, it is well worth seeking out whether one is an especial fan of Rottiers, Haenel, or anyone else who participated. For those ways in which Ruggia's stamp was indelibly placed upon the production as a person and as a director, any discussion one would have of this gets a lot more complicated. Watch, if you have the chance, but watch with keen awareness.