Suffering ties that bind is a cool game to play. I liked the first one as well as the second installment. I really enjoy the interactions the characters have with Torque during non-play sequences or story mode (whatever it's called). All good sequels should employ the old/new formula and this one does that. Those annoying Mainliners and Slayers are back as well as a couple of other creatures from the original. This new version also employs some new creatures or malefactors as they are referred to. One of my favorite new creatures is the Supressor(s) because they are so creepy and deadly. They project an evil, eerie vibe as they haul around their obese, legless bodies leaving a trail of blood in their wake, all the while grunting and breathing heavily. The actors doing the voices were very good as well. I was unaware that "real" actors were used. I always thought they just grabbed one of the techs and gave him some lines to read or that the creators just did the voices themselves. I liked Consuela and Blackmore from Ties that bind but the gas chamber ghost guy from the first one is still my favorite actor/character in the series. He was chilling and had some cool lines, I think his name was Hermes: "I grow weary of this game..." Speaking of which, I like how the bosses taunt and talk to you as they are trying to kill you.Ties that bind is interesting in that all of the bosses are fought at the end as opposed to during different stages of the game as is the traditional formula. Speaking of the bosses they were difficult to defeat, not so much the bosses themselves, but the creatures that surround the bosses and come in endless supply are what makes fighting the bosses difficult and frustrating. Especially on the final stage fighting Blackmore. Even with cheat codes it is far too time consuming and difficult to defeat Blackmore, but hey, maybe it's just me, so get other people's comments as well. In all, I thought the game was very fun, just like the first one. My only complaint is the difficult final stage. I look forward to Suffering 3.
4 Reviews
one of the best horror sequels ever
james-laing21 November 2010
Warning: Spoilers
First off the story, when i played the first i thought that some of the plot points where the best, you get the answers and in this you get the question e.g. the phone call to torque about his previous jail time, when you play the sequel you finally understand what she was talking about. at first i thought that the monsters in torques hometown was a bit of a lazy idea but as gave it more thought i began to realise that this was a very good idea, because he trying to cut the ties to the demons that have been playing him since childhood, and the character of Blackmore was one of the best twist ever in a game because when you find that he is actually torques dark alter ego created in the depths of his sub-consciences to keep him occupied as a lonely orphan only makes the saying 'the greatest battle lye's within'. the supporting doctor killjoy is one of the most ambiguous people to ever grace a game, even if you complete the game 100 times you may never fully understand if he was actually trying to help torque or if it was all an accident. one of the most epic games ever 9/10
My thoughts
tigerach66619 December 2011
Well i just barely bought the game so so far its not to bad. except you can't carry a lot of weapons, which totally stinks. Also he talks in this one which is different, because in the first one he didn't say a single word. So that messes his personality up a lot. But when he turns into the beast looks so much cooler and bad to the bone. the people don't look as real as they did in the first game, which is to bad, the first one they looked realistic. But then again i haven't beaten the game yet so when i do i will write another review. So far other then those glitches and the few things that they should have fixed its not to bad of a game. i would buy this game if you love violence and gore, killing etc. :)
Had the potential to be good, but didn't quite make it
PlayerSS27 October 2005
Whenever I played and beat the first Suffering. I thought a sequel to it would be much needed and great. As I thought about it. I realized that the first Suffering didn't really need a sequel and that it would be pointless and probably tarnish the first one.
Then the sequel news came out. I was against a sequel, but still got it since I was a huge fan of the first. I didn't expect much from the sequel, but had high hopes that it would prove me wrong.
Everything in Ties that Bind seems like it goes opposite of what the first built up and was about. The first game was about Torque a silent inmate in abbott state penitentiary. During his stay there, some horrific events are unleashed on Carnate island. Leaving Torque with his anger problem to fight through Carnate and its monsters to find answers about his possible murdered family.
Any fan of the first game knows there was three paths you could take with three different endings. This game has the same, but also has three different beginnings. Depending on what path you are going on good, neutral, or evil. That's a nice touch. Carrying over the old saved game data from the first game is also neat.
Now the story in Ties that Bind is just one of the things I have a problem with. In the first game Torque was a man who had a major problem with anger and used that to get through Carnate island. In this game Torque has another disorder which was lightly touched upon in the first game and his anger problem seems to be on the back burner. By lightly I mean so light that some people probably don't even remember it being stated in the first game.
The story revolves around Torque and Blackmore. The Blackmore character has a twist reveal at the end of the game. A twist that seems like a typical Hollywood derived idea. If the game wouldn't have been centered around that twist idea and character it would have been better. All I can say is that the Blackmore character is poorly written and its hard to believe that the same writer from the first game wrote this game and that character.
There is also another character called Jordan. She is completely forgettable and pointless. She could have been left out of the game and it still would have been fine. My only guess is that she was written in as an excuse to add another Hollywood voice to make the game sell.
The gameplay has been tweaked. Now you can only carry only two handguns and a shotgun/machine gun on your back. I don't have a problem with that much. Except that it seems every action/third person shooter game seems to be doing it now. The camera has been tweaked too. It seems to have been pulled back and not as close to Torque. Which ultimately makes Torque seem five foot two sometimes. The guns are weak. I found myself using the two sawn off shotguns and the twelve gouge pump action shotgun through the whole game or at least until they became available. The rest of the guns are unbalanced and to weak.
Torque's monster forms are back. He has three monster/rage forms. Good, Evil, and Neutral forms. Like I said earlier though. His rage problem seems to have been forgotten about and on the back burner, so his forms are null and void.
The enemies in this game are really the only thing that saves the game from being a total mess. There are some old enemies and new enemies in the game. There is two sub-enemies that take the place of Horace and Hermes. One is Copperfield a ghost/demon of a former slave driver. He is bland and there really isn't much to him. The other is The Creeper. Who is a ghost/demon of a former pimp. He is what "makes" the game for me. He is demented, crazy, and has a lot of good lines to say. The voice for him is perfect. He really fits into the Suffering world nicely.
The voice acting in this game is sub-par compared to the first game. Most of that blame is on Michael Clarke Duncan who bogs the game down a lot. First off Midway seems to be trying to sell the game off of his and Rachel Griffiths name. It even says on the back of the box "starring Rachel Griffiths and Michael Clarke Duncan." Clark Duncan is a fine movie star, but he has no range in his voice and his a terrible voice actor. He voice seems completely out of place in the Suffering world.
Now my biggest pet peeve with this whole game is that Surreal gave Torque a voice and a personality. In the first game he was this kick ass silent killer who observed and reacting in a subtle, but effective way to everything. He didn't need to talk to get his point across. He was the emotionless man of mystery. I feared that this game would give away way too much about him and take away all the things that made Torque interesting in the first game. Which they did. His appearance was also very neanderthal like in the first game. The first game never tried to distinguish what his race was: black, white, hispanic. It never told. By giving him a voice in the game it ultimately kills that neanderthal like appearance and shows strongly what his race is. Torque was given too many lines to say.
I think I've said enough about this game. It's not a terrible game. Glitchy at times, but it could have been a whole lot better and had the potential to be good. Here's hoping that a third game is out of the question.
Then the sequel news came out. I was against a sequel, but still got it since I was a huge fan of the first. I didn't expect much from the sequel, but had high hopes that it would prove me wrong.
Everything in Ties that Bind seems like it goes opposite of what the first built up and was about. The first game was about Torque a silent inmate in abbott state penitentiary. During his stay there, some horrific events are unleashed on Carnate island. Leaving Torque with his anger problem to fight through Carnate and its monsters to find answers about his possible murdered family.
Any fan of the first game knows there was three paths you could take with three different endings. This game has the same, but also has three different beginnings. Depending on what path you are going on good, neutral, or evil. That's a nice touch. Carrying over the old saved game data from the first game is also neat.
Now the story in Ties that Bind is just one of the things I have a problem with. In the first game Torque was a man who had a major problem with anger and used that to get through Carnate island. In this game Torque has another disorder which was lightly touched upon in the first game and his anger problem seems to be on the back burner. By lightly I mean so light that some people probably don't even remember it being stated in the first game.
The story revolves around Torque and Blackmore. The Blackmore character has a twist reveal at the end of the game. A twist that seems like a typical Hollywood derived idea. If the game wouldn't have been centered around that twist idea and character it would have been better. All I can say is that the Blackmore character is poorly written and its hard to believe that the same writer from the first game wrote this game and that character.
There is also another character called Jordan. She is completely forgettable and pointless. She could have been left out of the game and it still would have been fine. My only guess is that she was written in as an excuse to add another Hollywood voice to make the game sell.
The gameplay has been tweaked. Now you can only carry only two handguns and a shotgun/machine gun on your back. I don't have a problem with that much. Except that it seems every action/third person shooter game seems to be doing it now. The camera has been tweaked too. It seems to have been pulled back and not as close to Torque. Which ultimately makes Torque seem five foot two sometimes. The guns are weak. I found myself using the two sawn off shotguns and the twelve gouge pump action shotgun through the whole game or at least until they became available. The rest of the guns are unbalanced and to weak.
Torque's monster forms are back. He has three monster/rage forms. Good, Evil, and Neutral forms. Like I said earlier though. His rage problem seems to have been forgotten about and on the back burner, so his forms are null and void.
The enemies in this game are really the only thing that saves the game from being a total mess. There are some old enemies and new enemies in the game. There is two sub-enemies that take the place of Horace and Hermes. One is Copperfield a ghost/demon of a former slave driver. He is bland and there really isn't much to him. The other is The Creeper. Who is a ghost/demon of a former pimp. He is what "makes" the game for me. He is demented, crazy, and has a lot of good lines to say. The voice for him is perfect. He really fits into the Suffering world nicely.
The voice acting in this game is sub-par compared to the first game. Most of that blame is on Michael Clarke Duncan who bogs the game down a lot. First off Midway seems to be trying to sell the game off of his and Rachel Griffiths name. It even says on the back of the box "starring Rachel Griffiths and Michael Clarke Duncan." Clark Duncan is a fine movie star, but he has no range in his voice and his a terrible voice actor. He voice seems completely out of place in the Suffering world.
Now my biggest pet peeve with this whole game is that Surreal gave Torque a voice and a personality. In the first game he was this kick ass silent killer who observed and reacting in a subtle, but effective way to everything. He didn't need to talk to get his point across. He was the emotionless man of mystery. I feared that this game would give away way too much about him and take away all the things that made Torque interesting in the first game. Which they did. His appearance was also very neanderthal like in the first game. The first game never tried to distinguish what his race was: black, white, hispanic. It never told. By giving him a voice in the game it ultimately kills that neanderthal like appearance and shows strongly what his race is. Torque was given too many lines to say.
I think I've said enough about this game. It's not a terrible game. Glitchy at times, but it could have been a whole lot better and had the potential to be good. Here's hoping that a third game is out of the question.
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