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  • Warning: Spoilers
    The prison complex at Guantánamo, Cuba has been used to hold men captured in Afghanistan or Pakistan post 9/11 and believed to be Taliban or Al Qaeda. Perhaps 750 prisoners have gone through the prison, perhaps 300-odd have been released. "Enemy combatant" was the category created to justify rounding up prisoners and holding them for years without following the Geneva Convention, bringing charges, or providing legal representation or trials.

    Prisoner's-eye views of Guantánamo have come to us from detainees released back to England. Several years ago the Tricycle Theater of London produced "Guantánamo: Honor Bound to Defend Freedom," which was also produced in New York and Chicago. In this dramatization, transcripts and interviews recounted the "Gitmo" experiences of Jamal al-Harith, Bisher al-Rawi, Moazzam Begg and Ruhel Ahmed and much time was devoted to their spoken narratives. In the background on stage could be seen the cages and orange-clad men of the prison, largely as tableaux. There was also an emphasis on British capitulation to US policies that violated British law. Voices of politicians (Jack Straw, Donald Rumsfeld), lawyers for the prisoners, and the chief legal officer of England, Lord Justice Styne, in a stunning rebuke, are also heard. But mainly, from transcripts of interviews and letters, what you get is a picture of the four prisoners and their families, the absurdity of the circumstances of their seizure, and their various individual responses from irony to despair and near-madness.

    Now, a couple years later, again from British sources, there is "The Road to Guantanamo," a vivid pseudo-documentary based on the experiences of the "Tipton Three," Ruhel Ahmed, Asif Iqbal and Shafiq Rasul, twenty-year-olds of Pakistani and Bengali background from a predominantly poor area in the West Midlands; they originally were four, boyhood pals who went to Pakistan together because one of them was exploring the possibility of an arranged marriage with a girl there set up by his family. To hear them tell it, the whole trip was a kind of lark, but also an opportunity to explore roots and reconnect with relatives.

    They're a bit rough, these boys, though perhaps not atypical for a part of England said to "have no middle class." They'd been in some trouble with the law and this is what ultimately gained them their release, because they had to check in at home for community service during the time they were supposed to be in Afghanistan with Al Qaeda, and so they had proof of their innocence from the Tipton cops.

    They're all four Muslims and when they arrive in Pakistan they stay at a mosque, because it's cheaper than a hotel. The US is about to start bombing Afghanistan and a firebrand imam inspires the boys to go to Afghanistan to help the Afghans. They don't seem to grasp that they're heading directly into grave danger.

    This is the part viewers and reviewers tend to question. Were the boys being stupid or is their description disingenuous? We don't know and unlike the Tricycle stage play Honor Bound, the film doesn't cleave closely to actual testimony. Where it excels beyond anything you've ever seen is as a Rough Guide to bumbling into a war zone. It's believable that wild boys on an adventure would want to explore the next country. They think they may be able to deal with the language and they've heard the naan bread loaves are huge. So they plunge in. And it all goes terribly wrong.

    Michael Winterbottom and co-director Mat Whitecross have shot this story on location with intense vividness. The scenes of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the ultimate chaos and bombing and the trap the guys fall into, one of their number disappearing and never heard from again, followed by the van ride that was to take them out of the country but just leads them into the hands of the Northern alliance and a roundup of Taliban, a deadly ride in a metal container, and ultimately shipment to the barbed wire fences and brutalities of Guantánamo is inter-cut with head shots of the men narrating and commenting today played by non-actors chosen to be so close to the originals that you wouldn't know the difference.

    Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002 is madness, chaos, and war. Guantánamo is boneheaded stupidity, brutal racism, religious persecution, and psychological torture. "The Road to Guantanamo" gives us a strong taste of all those elements. This is in-your-face film-making of a peculiarly intense kind.

    Although the play is more thoughtful and provides more perspective, Winterbottom's intense, gutsy agitprop is far more powerful. Its second half really just brings to life and adds detail to what we already know: the head masks, the chains, the suits, the outdoor cages, and the rest; the interrogators who hammer over and over to the boys "You're Al Qaeda!" They start at Camp X-Ray, for the worst treatment, and later are moved to Camp Delta. Finally the Tipton boys are called "The Three Kings" and given special treatment when, somewhat inexplicably, they've been cleared.

    At this point much of the world protests this treatment of untried and un-accused prisoners that has now persisted for five years. With hunger strikes and attempted suicides and in the recent wake of three successful coordinated suicides of prisoners, some of America's closest allies are calling for "Gitmo" to be shut down, and even Bush has said he wants to. Winterbottom's pseudo-documentary, skillfully interspersed with actual documentary footage, is based on information provided by the three surviving Tipton Three. No one to my knowledge has been released back to the US or if anyone has, he hasn't spoken up.

    While the Tricycle/Culture Project play appealed to the mind, the movie goes for the gut, and it does so very effectively. We need both. The play seems a little namby-pamby now. The movie seems careless. Together, though, they give you some kind of truth.
  • Clean cut, sharp and poignant, this is a documentary of those the British press named the "Tipton Three". Three young Englishmen tell their story of a wedding trip to Pakistan and an unplanned journey into Afghanistan. Victims of circumstance, their tale leads to incarceration in Guantanamo Bay and the apparently shocking treatment that ensued.

    Whilst the story is told purely from the perspective of the detainees, there is never any point at which you really doubt the content of the film. In no way does the portrayal of events seem exaggerated or biased so as to evoke a stronger reaction from the audience. In parts sequences seem almost void of emotion in terms of their description, and surprisingly, the effect is to make it even more hard hitting. Not overcooking the trauma means what can only be assumed as a factual depiction of horrifying circumstances comes across quite superbly.

    There are points where you can question the realism of the young men's decisions. For example, the point from which they want to leave Kabul back for Pakistan only to find themselves trapped with the Taliban is a little scantily dealt with. This may or may not be wholly accurate, and of course they felt compelled to follow those they felt were standing up for their religion, but from the individual interview footage you can't help feel they were impressionable youths just following their noses, lost in the surreal adventure of it all.

    Perfectly paced, the film spends just the right amount of time on each area/location of the story. Winterbottom nicely interweaves footage from British television news to prompt recollection of the perspective from which the public saw the events in Afghanistan. And with a good balance of acted reconstruction and subject interview, both the drama and technicalities feel great. Is there no style or subject this man can't handle?
  • Road is the story of three British citizens of Pakistani descent who through a series of accidents and bad coincidences wind up in Taliban-held Afghanistan during the British-American bombing and occupation in the post-911 months of 2001.

    Ruhel Ahmed, Asif Iqbal and Shafiq Rasul are 20-year-old devout Moslem men living in England who travel with their friend Monir to Pakistan to attend Asif's wedding. After spending a few days of shopping and sightseeing, the friends attend a mosque with Asif's Pakistani cousin, Zahid.

    The Imam inspires them to volunteer to travel to Afghanistan and provide humanitarian aid presumably to the refugees being created in the civil strife with the Taliban on the eve of the invasion The friends decide to go to Kabul "to help." The story finds them set loose in the chaos of the invasion after the bus driver hits and kills a man, then leaves them.

    They try to arrange for a ride back to Pakistan, instead the ride takes them north to a Taliban stronghold. The stronghold falls and they are taken prisoner; they lose track of Monir, and he is not heard from again. They herd the three onto trucks, and the nightmare truly begins: Asif and Shafiq are sent to Guantanamo, Zahid is imprisoned in Pakistan.

    It's a hard movie to watch with the reenactments of the cruel treatment born by the "boys." What's always puzzled me is how did we know these detainees were Al Qaeda enablers, instrumental in the attacks of 911, sworn enemies of every good and decent American thing? The movie provides a news clip of King George saying, "The only thing I know for certain is that these are some bad people." Well we've seen the certainty of The Decider before, e.g. weapons of mass destruction and Saddam's relationship with Al Qaeda. According to MSNBC sources, as reported in Wikipedia: As of November 2006, out of 775 detainees brought to Guantanamo, approximately 340 have been released, leaving 435 detainees. Of those 435, 110 are labeled as ready for release. Of the other 325, only "more than 70" will face trial, the Pentagon says. That leaves about 250 who may be held indefinitely....

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    Brian Wright Copyright 2007
  • Even if a third of what the Tipton Three alleged to have happened to them is true, that should outrage all Americans.

    But since there seems to be this belief - perpetuated by Dubya and his cronies - that this administration is somehow doing all this to protect us Americans from the bad guys, there is no outrage that we torture prisoners, hold them without charges or access to counsel, deprive them of civil liberties, all in the name of security. What poppycock!

    Michael Winterbottom's film does not answer an important question - exactly what kind of "help" were these three chaps going to provide in Afghanistan? However, what happened to them should embarrass all of us.

    Our foreign policy is so dumb - we prohibit trade with and travel to Cuba because it's a communist nation, but have no qualms about trading with or allowing travel to China and Vietnam - and our leaders so hypocritical.

    Dubya claims to have freed Iraq from a brutal dictator (who, incidentally, was someone we supported not too long ago, when Dubya's dad was veep, to be exact, and Rummy was shaking hands with Saddam), and yet the people running Iraq today seem no better. They're still torturing people, violent militias carry out retribution killings, and our leaders stick their heads in the sand and say everything's alright.

    "The Road to Guantanamo" is shot as a pseudo-documentary. The Tipton Three are portrayed as likable lugs who got caught up in something they never intended. There's an element of black comedy to all this - they keep their senses of humor as they recount the horrible, distasteful and despicable manner in which they're treated.

    That we would have had an American pretending to be British to try and coerce these three men doesn't surprise me in the least. After all, it turns out Dubya considered painting the UN logo on a plane to tempt Saddam to shoot it down so we could have a reason to wage war. (Gulf of Tonkin, anyone?)

    This is an incredibly difficult, at times harrowing, film to watch. There are those of us who still, foolishly perhaps, believe in the American ideal. A nation that stands for human rights and decent treatment of prisoners. But, I know, reality is far different. We have a Supreme Court justice who scoffs at giving Gitmo prisoners their day in court and a government that believes the Geneva Conventions are antiquated.

    We apparently want to show the world we're the beacon of freedom and treat everyone - including alleged criminals - with certain rights, such as due process. And that's what we're trying to instill in Iraq and Afghanistan. But, in practice, we do exactly the opposite.

    "The Road to Guantanmo" works because Winterbottom never lets go, never eases up to allow us to feel comfortable. Watching what happens to the Tipton Three is awfully disquieting. It is shameful that we behave like this. What's more worrisome is there seems to be such a lack of outrage among Americans that we're doing this. This administration (and its blowhard allies) have done such a wonderful job convincing Americans that speaking out against their policies is tantamount to being unpatriotic.

    I realize many will reject Winterbottom's film because it doesn't cast the United States in all honorable light. It shows how vicious, uncaring and brutal we are, even though our leaders continue to deny everything.

    I can only hope that years from now, we will be thoroughly ashamed of how our government treated people in the war on terror, just as we now feel shame for how we treated Japanese-Americans during WWII.

    "The Road to Guantanamo" is an important film. I hope now that it has an American distributor, more people will be exposed to it. I am sure the right-wing demagogues will attack it as anti-American and tell us that seeing it would be unpatriotic. (Then again, I don't need OxyContin to function daily.)

    The MPAA banned the initial poster for this film because it depicted a man with his wrists tied and a burlap sack over his head and that apparently is too much for our children to see. It's quite alright expose kids to horror-movie posters, but letting them see depictions of some of the despicable acts of our government is bad?

    Because of AMPAS' dumb rules, I am certain this film won't be eligible for any Oscars. (It already has been shown on TV in the UK and is available on DVD there.) But "The Road to Guantanamo" must be seen by as many Americans as possible. You watch it and wonder, where has all our decency gone?
  • The film provides an excellent portrayal of the horrors that the US and the UK have gone to in the pursuit of the War on Terror, and also a damning indictment of the workings of the minds that are behind this "War". I feel that the film may well deserve the acclaim it gets purely on the basis of the bravery that it cast and direction have shown in making it- their freedoms and possibly their careers may be impinged upon as a result.

    This fact was well illustrated in the recent incident that I feel brings the reality of Guantanamo and the War on Terror closer to home. It was documented that the cast, returning to Luton having picked up the Silver Bear Award at the Berlin Film Festival, were taken aside and questioned by police. In a haunting piece of irony, the mini-detention at Luton airport served as a mirror of Guantanamo. The actors were racially insulted (a policewoman telling one actor-"I'll get my male colleague to handle you- you Muslims don't like dealing with women do you?"); physically provoked (a policeman wrestling one of the actor's phones out of his hand to inspect his phone book); denied any legal recourse (they were not allowed to call their lawyers); insulted (one of the actors was called a "f****r" by a police officer); and generally treated by the supposed arbiters of justice in such a way befitting of people who know they are above the law and thus permit themselves to do what they like. Such occurrences are now commonplace in the life of the Tipton Three. Will it be the same for the actors who had the courage to play them?
  • Perhaps there is more than one Michael Winterbottom. The history of cinema is full of Big Reputations built on very short CVs, but this guy must be working on several projects simultaneously and anyone lucky to get close enough will be caught up in the slipstream. He's the I K Brunel of the silver screen. However, Whitecross must have handled the bulk of the work here, and a lucky few at the Bristol Watershed, England, will have met him with the three British protagonists of this adventure (16th March), who relate their experiences intercut with actors and archive footage in what may prove to be the seminal event of 21st Century cinema. It's certainly the most powerful experience you are liable to have in the theatre. This reviewer has not seen it on TV, nor downloaded it to PC, but my guess is that it will retain some of its force. Undoubtedly much of this force is because it's a true story, and one which connects with us all, through our governments' recreation of the Cold War strategy for slicing up the world into areas of influence, and using the artifice of 'bogeymen' (Pinkos, Martians, Yankees, Muslims) to keep the populace down. But the secret of great art is to make it look easy. In lesser hands this could have been an exercise in widescreen bathos. And recognising the gift from real life to the film maker in the scene where one of the guards exposes his cultural commonality with one of these 'dangerous terrorists', asking him to perform a rap, is just one example. The confusion of Afghanistan and Pakistan as the bombs fall and the invaders take over is totally convincing. An eyes-open nightmare full of dust and colliding waves of refugees followed by the interminable grind of terror, insults from thugs and 'cultured' interrogators, boredom and torture suffered by the captives in a situation that Kafka and Orwell could never have imagined. This is a trite comparison, I know, but violence is trite, and banal. If you see any one film this year, make it this one. CLIFF HANLEY
  • This is a slick well put together piece of terrorist propaganda in which 3 boys who have had all the privileges and liberties of western society travel, weeks after 911, 12000 miles across the world and "get lost" in a van with 50 other foreign fighters, who also "got lost" after accidentally picking up AK47s and rpgs, and again accidentally head for the front-line in an imminent war. they are somehow mistaken for fighters, although they can't figure out why,something about the convoy being full to the brim with gun totting lunatics and are subsequently captured by Americans who are unrelentingly portrayed as barbarians.

    The trick of this docu-farce is to make out that the terrorists are human beings too-- without showing one image of the child murderers they truly are..

    The truly funny thing about this movie is the way the terrorists are portrayed as all being saintly individuals who would never hurt a fly (complete to swooning music).

    The story is comical and riven with errors and smacks of a hastily put together "I-got-lost" tale given quickly after capture.

    note: listen to the stats at the end and notice how not one mention is given of the 17% of terrorists that are recaptured on the battlefield after release...

    defo worth a watch but doooooooooont get sucked in....
  • This docu-drama focuses on the story of the 'Tipton Three' - young guys from Birmingham who went to Pakistan to organise a wedding, decided to pop over to Afghanistan (I can only assume through naivety, ignorance and a misguided sense of adventure) to 'help' (though it appeared that little effort was made) and ended up getting embroiled in the conflict, captured with Taliban fighters and subsequently picked up by US Marines for the crime of speaking English in a foreign country. From this point 'til their release, they are essentially told that they are Al Qaeda in the hope that they'll admit to what is obviously not true.

    If you can put yourself in their places, this is a harrowing film. (I spent a lot of it with my hand over my mouth...!) Being in a situation where you are being bullied and tortured - via some truly horrible methods and treatment - into admitting you're something you're not, with no means of proving your innocence must be...well, I can only imagine. I have every respect with the way they seemed to deal with it, especially given the candid way they discuss it in the documentary inserts that regularly appear throughout the movie.

    For those who think it's unbalanced: I understand. However, it is THEIR story. Certain troops are shown in a human light, though let's face it: from what the film tells us, we're dealing with a situation involving the US equivalent of the SS… You want the other side of the story? Listen to any George W. Bush press conference.

    The acting is natural, the story flows, some of the shots are dramatically documentary-like and I felt that it fully deserved the praise it's received. Sadly, I feel that the only people who will watch this are the ones who are aware of the issues already, while middle-America will, I dare say, completely ignore it. Either way, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend spending 95 minutes of your time taking it all in. Sleeping afterwards might be a problem though. It was for me.
  • Camp Delta at Guantanamo Bay is a centre for the torture and degradation of "suspects" in the War on Terror. Only nine inmates have been charged and non convicted. It is without doubt, a major recruiting agent for the extremists and shows that Gandhi wasn't joking when asked about Western Civilisation he said; "I think it would be good idea".

    George Bush wants to export American Values. What example is he setting when suspects are chained, hooded, subjected to sensory deprivation, have Korans flushed down the bog and are routinely insulted by their captors? These are not charges laid by the Far Left but by the Red Cross, Amnesty and the United Nations. Blimey, even Blair wants it shut down so it must be bad.

    If these individuals pose a threat then charge them and let's see the wheels of justice set in motion. To just lock people up because in best Jack Bauer speak they are the "Bad Guys", is simply indefensible and sums up why large sections of the world hate America.

    This story filmed by Michael Winterbottom (24 Hour Party People, Jude) centres around the so called Tipton Three who were caught by the Northern Alliance in a Taliban stronghold and handed over to the Americans.

    Winterbottom skates over the reasons why these lads were holed up in a Taliban area and what on earth they were doing in Afghanistan in the first place.

    This does them a disservice as we don't get to find out what they thought of America, 9/11 or their own Muslim faith prior to their capture. Were they misguided West haters? Did they act out of naivety, were they there to help in a aid manner? We never find out because the director gives us no opportunity to get to know the protagonists. We need to know these things in order to put their disgusting treatment in context.

    If they were there to train as Al Queda operatives then that puts the viewers relationship with the characters in a different context. Do we empathise or judge? I felt I wanted to do one or the other.

    The film was done with talking heads with the real men, interspersed with actors doing reconstructions of real situations and this worked as a mechanism despite the fact we are given no motivational context.

    Whether guilty or innocent, there is no way a Labour Government should allow British Citizens to be treated in such a depraved manner. For goodness sake Patricia Hewitt and Harriet Harman, both senior Labour Cabinet Ministers ran Liberty, the Human Rights pressure group for a while in the Eighties. Crazy but true.

    As a piece it was well constructed in a technical sense, and got Winterbottom's objective of educating the wider public to such vile practices, but lacked context and that's a real shame
  • The Tipton Three were there Britons of south Asian origin, mixed up in petty crime. Sufficiently Paskistani in identity to visit that country and feel reasonably at home, they were also sufficiently British to imagine it would be a good idea to extend their trip to Afghanistan, just to see what they would find. What they did find, of course, was war, the of death a friend, and then, just when they might have thought they were safe, torture and imprisonment at the hands of the Americans, first in Afghanistan and then in Guantanamo Bay. Michael Winterbottom's film is shot in many of the original locations, reconstructing their story: the reconstruction is accompanied by interviews with the men (in which they describe what happened, with little embellishment) and clippings from news stories at the time (a minority of which display what in retrospect seems outrageous bias in favour of the agreed western spin on the war). There's an element of black comedy in the way a group of uppity British lads somehow find themselves at war; but when the torture begins, it's hard not to get angry at the systematic disregard for the human rights of men who had been convicted of no crime. Also hard to escape is the sheer bone-headedness of their interrogators: convinced that their suspects work for "Al-Quaeda", which they seem to conceive of as some kind of unitary and institutional organisation, the Americans have no effective idea of what to do except to put this proposition to their suspects ad nauseam until they agree, with intermittent torture to ram home the point. That a confession in these circumstances would have means precisely nothing does not seem to have occurred to them. In fact, the men didn't break, which was presumably easier because they had no idea of the sort of information the Americans wanted from them. But (except at the very end), there were heroic acts of defiance in the fashion of the Hollywood prison movie either; against overwhelming force, such behaviour isn't really on.

    I would have liked to see the suspects called to explain themselves a little further when they say they went to Afghansistan to "help", but overall, their stories make a grim kind of sense, and they lost three years of their lives for a foolish expedition. Now they are Muslims in a way they never were before, having gained strength through their religion in their darkest hour. This is an important and absorbing film, which as with the same director's 'In This World', reminds you of how large the world is. And also makes you want to scream: "Not in My Name!".
  • I saw this docudrama at SilverDocs and thought it gave an intriguing, if brutal and chilling, look into the detentions at Guantanamo Bay. The movie chronicles the stories of four men who go to attend a wedding in Pakistan in September of 2001. They end up, for reasons that in my view remain unclear, going to Afghanistan where they are caught in the crossfire between the Taliban and Northern Alliance forces. They are arrested and the film shows their treatment at the hands of first Northern Alliance and later American forces.

    The format of the movie is a historical recreation interspersed with interviews with three of the men profiled. While this allows a view into their lives from their perspective, the film suffers from the lack of any alternative point-of-view. As far as I am able to determine, there was no effort to interview or document any person who might contradict their account. Whether that's because no such person exists or whether it is because the filmmakers did not look for such people is unclear.

    The brutal treatment of the men while they are in custody is shocking, but tends to become almost mundane by the end of the movie. The constant shouting, beating, and questioning becomes almost boring despite its brutality. This may be an intentional effect by the filmmakers to illustrate the repetitive nature of the detentions at Guantanamo.

    Overall, the movie provides an interesting, if one-sided, view of the treatment of prisoners following the United States' invasion of Afghanistan.
  • This is the reality of the dictatorship that we live under today. George Bush and his neocons have completely discarded the rule of law and are engaging in torture to pursue their evil ends.

    This documentary shows what can happen not only to three Brits who were traveling to a wedding, but to anyone who lives in America under the present circumstances.

    The military, who are not to blame as they were just ignorant rednecks following orders, are made to be cartoon characters. The "interregators" are just like police everywhere, they lie and deceive just to get someone to confess. The fact that they have been unable to get a confession shows just how ridiculous they are. Bellieve me, I would have confessed to buggery under those conditions.

    Once we remove Bush from office in another 664 days, then Guantanamo should be closed and leveled to the ground so that not one stone sits atop another. It is too much to hope that Bush and his cohorts in crime would ever be borough to trial and punished as the war criminals they are for this sad chapter in our history.
  • lestad-17 April 2006
    Movie itself is pretty decent tho its only one sided (anti American propaganda - torture of the innocents, harassing people who go on a vacation to a war zone :>).

    What didn't convince me in this movie is that all this Britons who go to Pakistan for (marriage) end up in Afganistan for 2 and half weeks. Why didn't they go by their plans, and they go to Afghanistan ? First they are in Pakistan and think there wouldn't be a war and they still go to Afganistan, tho when they are on the road in Afganistan they see and hear bombing and flashes around and they still proceed with their vacation ? Are they stupid or they are just foreign fighters going to a holy war. (to protect against infidels and all the rest of mambo jumbo). Wake up it ain't 13century anymore! Crusaders are gone.

    I think every sane person would turn back, but they keep moving to tali ban strongholds in Kandahar, Kabul and later fleeing to Konduz.

    Thats pretty unconvincing, cause where i live in Balkans, when there was war on and even before war actually started people were leaving their country. Those who couldn't afford it i guess had to stay there either for economic reasons or desire to defend their country. The only foreigners that came in were from Bosnian sides (arab countries mercenaries and from Serbian sides (russian mercenaries), foreign fighters, who fight either for quick buck, looting doing nasty things in name of religion.

    As of foreigners going on a trip to a country where bad things like war can happen, i guess they do that on their own risk and its their fault if something happens to them. (i guess i wouldn't blame George bush or Usama bin laden or you who are reading this if i go in war zone and get myself killed or imprisoned). Remember guys where going to get married in Pakistan not Afghanistan.

    War is war and maybe they were unlucky and at the wrong time at wrong place, but still they could easily turn back whenever they wanted, they did that after 2 and half weeks, when they saw they cant match i guess with US forces and northern alliance, so they were on the run trying to escape.

    Now again dilemma are they foreign fighters or no, I think they were, just there was no proof actually to say so. So like in the movie when they are captured at Mazaar A Sharif ( stick to your story (that we are from Pakistan) and we will be home faster) paid off i guess.

    USA torture techniques didn't work i guess, cause they ain't that brutal at all. When i saw so many reports on many televisions lately about how brutal things go on in prisons like Guantanamo, Abu Greib in Iraq, from Amnesty International and when i watched this movie i really laughed my ass out, mostly cause what i saw is nothing. There are many of this violations going on and much worse in the rest parts of the world, but i guess focus on US is more important for left wingers in that organizations.

    Worst things are happening in regular prisons all over these countries in (democratic) Europe even and nobody is complaining or reporting about that. Where is Amnesty International ? Where is Human Rights Watch in these cases. Why don't they cover things like they do for Guantanamo or Abu Greib - cause it ain't flashing that good in media i guess, story itself is more important if its against US.

    But i guess people will still say that was way too much from US to do. I guess you also think be-headings and doing things to humanitarian workers or workers who help in Iraq is i guess much less problematic than simple mind games US does to get intelligence off potential terrorists.

    All that BS about Geneve conventions and stuff like that, this people that were captured are not regular army, so pow things don't apply on these people, potential terrorists got their own laws.
  • When I watched 'The Road to Guantánamo', it was with the view that it would give a well-balanced look at Guantanamo and what is supposed to be happening in the camp. Instead, I have to agree with criticism that this was film was not only very anti-American but gave the impression the whole of Britain hated America.

    I can't complain about the acting, which was first rate, especially when you consider this was a debut for most of the actors. Also, the actual plot (if you see it as fictional) was involving and gritty and that is why I do give the film a five-out-of-ten rating.

    However, I loathed the fact the producers made out this was a true story and the events played out just as depicted in the film. No-one knows exactly why these men were in Afghanistan and I find it hard they were there out of purely innocent reasons. These were not sweet little boys plucked off the streets of London by the Big Bad Americans, they were grown men more than old enough to know what they were doing and they were caught with Afghan soldiers fighting against US troops. Also, we're just expected to take their word that they were tortured and abused when no-one knows exactly what went on in Guantánamo (I find it hard to believe the Americans would have been so heavy-handed on three Britons who had access to a lawyer).

    I certainly don't think the Americans are innocents in all of this (the Afghan prisoners of Guantánamo should have access to lawyers) but they are far from the evil this film made them out to be. And they are probably more innocent than these three pretend to be. If anything, the only crime the Americans have really committed in my mind is not coming to take Abu Hamza off to their Cuban camp since the UK is so wrapped up in soft EU laws that we are forced to let this proved terrorist remain here in a lap of luxury.

    As a work of fiction, this is a well-portrayed film but it just didn't ask enough questions. Why did these three feel the need to leave the UK for Afghanistan? Why were they so stupid to remain in the country if they were there by mistake? If they were so innocent, why were they caught in the heat of the fighting? Where is the actual physical evidence they were tortured?
  • anyone still thinking that the war on terrorism is in defense of democracy and civil human rights must, in the light of what is documented in this film, reevaluate his/her position. it doesn't matter why these young men went to Afganistan - the way they are treated by the US government is appalling and i simply cannot understand how anyone claiming to be a civilized human being, can defend the crimes committed by US military personnel, as documented in this film. ...and remember - these 3 guys were lucky - they are British nationals and this means someone is looking out for them - their families live in GB and they have the possibility of putting pressure on the British government, but think of all the nameless Afghans and Pakistanis who are held by the US and their allies under even worse conditions.

    brilliant film BTW!
  • The Road To Guantanamo a film which was screened on Channel 4 last night is a harrowing tale of injustice committed by the American Government under the guise of the war on terror.

    Three innocent men, (actually four to begin with),childhood friends all British, 3 of Pakistani origin and one Bangladeshi ( not Arab as described by IronicFilmReference review) set off to Pakistan for a holiday and to attend the wedding of one of the 4 men.

    With time on their hands before the wedding, stupidly they decide to go to Afghanistan to help with the relief effort at a time when the US is gearing up for an invasion.

    When they realise the gravity of the situation in Afghanistan, they try to get back to Pakistan, instead they get taken deeper into the combat zone and there the 4 men from Tipton, became the Tipton 3 as one of their Friends (Monir) gets separated (and is never seen again).

    Taken into custody by The US forces after surviving near starvation for a month at the hands of the Northern Alliance what should of been the end of their ordeal turns out to be just the beginning.What emerges next through interviews with the men and re-enactment of events is a tale of unbelievable treatment of the three men and incompetence at the hands of the US authorities.Routine humiliation and torture both physical and psychological in Afghanistan before they are sent to Guantanamo Bay, where they some how endure the same regime for a further 2 years.

    This is an unmissable film/documentary of the above mentioned events which will have you question the freedoms and rights you enjoy so freely and how in this day and age the world is so silent on the injustice and blatant disregard for human rights that is taking place in Guantanamo Bay.Whatever else you do in 2006, watching this film should be at the top of your list.
  • In 2001 four friends set off from their homes in Tipton, West Midlands, Birmingham, to travel to Pakistan to attend the wedding of their friend. Once in Pakistan they decide to travel into Afghanistan for a day or two to experience the country for themselves. Once there they notice an obvious change of mood and soon a bombing raid leaves them isolated but alive. The group they are in is picked up by armed me and transferred into the custody of US military who treat them all as if they are terrorists.

    This is an intense and engaging film but it is one I had one or two big problems with. The nature of the story means the film is fascinating and easily held my interesting, providing a first-hand account of a camp that not even the UN are allowed to get. The film is impacting due to this and, even if you assume that the "Tipton Three" have exaggerated their story, the basics are still amazing enough. However, and this is not a failing of the film, it didn't shock me or rock my world. This says more about the world we live in rather than the film because although Peter Hain of the Labour cabinet said "I would prefer that it wasn't there and I would prefer it was closed" and Tony Blair calls Guantanomo an "anomaly" the place remains open. Most of us believe, nay, "know" that torture goes on in there and that the Americans have set up their own little world outside of all laws but yet it remains open. This means that the plight of the three is familiar and not as much of a revelation as it could have been – this lessens the impact of the film through no fault of its own.

    The problem I had with it early on was that it seemed slanted towards the three from the very start. Things would have been much better if the film had forced the three to address the very simple and reasonable question "wtf were you thinking heading into a war zone for an 'experience'". As it is the three tend to talk in unnatural sentences that sound scripted and clunky; sometimes they sound like real people but generally I didn't feel like they were in control of their narration – which is a feeling I think the film desperately needed. Of course it is unfair to level too much criticism at them because really their impact is through their ordeals, not their delivery. In this regard the film works and deserves to be seen for the insight it provides.

    As director Winterbottom is a diverse force and he does well with the feeling of place in the film – that is convincing. However he can't get across the feeling of time; the film felt like the imprisonment was rapid and flowing, which in reality it was most certainly not. The cast are mostly good; some of the people in minor roles in the dramatisations are clunky but the majority are convincing. Overall this is a film worth seeing if only to provide you with an understanding of the real war on terror. Cleverly opening with the "the one thing we know is that these are all bad people" remark from Bush, the film strips this attitude away as the bullsh1t it is. It surprised me by how unshocking it was but this is more to the fact that sadly nowadays we just accept illegal behaviour of our Governments – an approach shown by the ongoing existence of these camps. I would also have liked the film to be a bit more on the case of three rather than not questioning their total lack of judgement but despite this it was engaging and interesting. The downside of the whole thing is that you'll be left shaking your head wondering what the people in power actually have to do before they are removed – shoot somebody themselves? Oh, no, at least one of them has already done that. Sleep well readers!
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    I have to admit that I'm not a fan of docu-dramas. I would rather have substance in the background and narration over the top than the film being constantly broken up by those involved retelling what we've just seen or are about to see.

    Nevertheless, it was an important story worth telling. The real question is whether it was told properly. The director, Michael Winterbottom, has been criticised for not questioning the accounts of the Tipton Three. James Christopher, in his review in the Sunday Times, stated that Winterbottom had "an insane lack of cool perspective," for not questioning the accounts of the Tipton Three.

    "Why, oh why, jump on a minibus to Afghanistan when jets are carpet-bombing the country? If your friends are mortally sick, why catch the next truck to the front line? The sheer stupidity of these Brits mocks the sincerity of the film." After watching the film I felt that the three men had no real reason to be in Afghanistan at the time. They stated that they had heard mixed reports of the Taliban and wanted to find out if they really were bad people. How flimsy an excuse is that for a group that were on their way to an arranged marriage of one of them in Pakistan? A slightly erroneous detour to take don't you think? From a cynical perspective you could argue that it looked like they went over to meet the Taliban and possibly see about aiding their cause at the same time the war kicked off and they were in the wrong place at the wrong time about to get involved in a very wrong thing.

    So whilst they were innocent of any crimes it is their possible intentions that were guilty and they paid a high price for stupidity.
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    This is a great , great movie showing the paranoia and racial profiling that has been going on in our country for a long time.

    The movie as IMDb explains is "Part drama, part documentary" and it revolves around three British Muslims (they weren't terrorists) who were held in Guantanamo Bay without rights or a trail after they made a trip to Afghanistan and it's harbors.

    Yes they had awful timing to visit a country engulfed in war but it was part of their expedition and their roots to see the country. It was also awful timing for the US to engage in a war that many of the American public do not support.

    Despite what George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and other right wingers say there is torture, disrespect, beatings and a host of other shameless things that are in direct violation of the Geneva code at Guantanamo. We all saw what happened in Abu Ghraib and the prisoner abuse there that was LARGELY kept secret until someone reported it this is nothing in the post 9/11 world but tip of the iceberg.

    The stuff going on Guantanamo has been well detailed in shows like 60 Minutes and news sources like the Guantanamoble project which has DVD's and interviews with prisoners: http://www.guantanamobile.org/interviews.php

    Yet we continue doing the same mistakes over and over in the name of National Security even when Lawyers and Supreme Court itself say the policies there are wrong.. This is what causes the rest of the world which is in poverty and despair to lash out the USA with such rage and passion. Everyone was affected by 9/11 no doubt but there were better ways to rebuild and handle than to jail hundreds of people without due process of law. Sadly the law seems something that is only really executed to the rich and well enough than to the common man or foreigner.

    Directors Michael Winterbottom, Mat Whitecross did an amazingly good job. He hired some actors to play the role but we also see interviews with the actual Tipton Three about their terrible ordeal. The movie is beautifully shot as well, and really you just have are in admiration for what the directors are trying to do here which is to end the madness and say "hey this is wrong". The policies are wrong especially when it comes to the military with really no prove whatsoever to try and coerce some of these prisoners to admit that they are Al-Queda or some terrorist organizations without any sufficient proof.

    Anyhow see this movie. It's getting great ratings on IMDb as well, and I would urge any real concerned American to watch it and discuss it with their friends.
  • kosmasp22 April 2007
    Warning: Spoilers
    ... That's a saying that I got from a rap song. It could easily be a tag line for this movie. If you don't know what Guantanamo stands for and if you don't want to know that before you go see the movie, then stop right here ... although I don't consider it a spoiler myself, but here goes:

    Guantanamo stands for the Guantanamo Bay prison that is used by the Americans. The prisoners held there, are allegedly all terrorists. The Americans are pretty sure that they are. This is the story of four Pakistan friends, that live in the UK, but are on a trip to a wedding to Pakistan. Their motives for not going directly to the wedding are unclear (at least to me), so that the movie does have a strange touch at the beginning ... but that's nothing compared, to what is going to happen to them ...
  • mihaip415 August 2006
    My god, Americans,you are really bad boys! This Americans don't know how to have a war,in the sort in which themselves comport they will bring the world in the threshold of a nuclear war ! The movie is solid and is just iceberg! I don't know if Muslims story from this film is true but how Americans act, make more Muslims want to go to war! I don't understand,their officers acts like Nazis! America please wake up! I don't know what to say more,the movie speaks himself! They never learned from Vietnam!It seems to me that many Americans are like zombie,maybe too much junk food?And this Bush,my god, how can Americans elect him?
  • fdsprata16 November 2007
    it shows how you can get caught in a situation of terror without expecting it, i enjoyed the film and recommend it to any one that wonders what Guantanamo prison is, the struggle of normal people that get into an-wanted situation and horrific experience of trying to explain your innocence and knowing that no one is interested in that truth. All cast give a good realistic performance, the scenes of prisoners interrogation could be better directed but is not bad enough to spoil the interest and flow of the film. One is amazed how easy it is to go from normal and quite safe life one day and the next you are in hell. the Americans are seen here as the bad guys but the tali bans also have nothing to be proud about their handling of prisoners.
  • mabbask1 July 2006
    This is probably one of the most mind boggling films I have ever seen. It definitely deserved the Berlin International Film Festival award.

    We often hear about the 500 or so detainees in Guantanamo and we may grant these men some basic pity. And then we change the channel. But this film makes you think about the imprisonment these men face in Guantanamo. And I mean REALLY think. Parts of this movie were as gut-wrenching as they were engrossing. Sitting in my seat in the cinema, I couldn't stop thinking about how I'm finding it psychologically gripping just to watch this movie, and how painful it must feel to actually be at the receiving end of this Guantanamo Hospitality. The viewer feels a strange combination of compassion, pity, distaste and frustration all within the 95 minutes of this film/documentary.

    What I like about The Road to Guantanamo, is that there is little or no gore, yet one feels disgusted at the level that humanity has sunk to. And one feels respect for the solid perseverance and patience of the Tipton Three and the scores of other innocent men held at Guantanamo.

    I recommend The Road to Guantanamo to you. Because it is a brilliant and thought provoking take on human rights, justice and Guantanamo.
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    I need to begin by saying that Guantanamo was and remains to be a huge disgrace for the United States of America and everything most of us feel we represent, things like freedom, human dignity, and the rights of man. This torture chamber dreamed up by Dick Cheney goes against all of that. Whatever problems I had with this film don't change the fact that I think this prison is disgusting, illegal, and immoral.

    "My parents went to Pakistan and they saw a bride for me," are the first lines spoken by Asif in the film. And the bride? Perhaps a first cousin as is all too common amongst Pakistanis in flagrant disregard for the health risks their children will incur. Or perhaps she is a child also under the complete control of family. He decides to marry her after four days. OK, I think Asif really has to ask himself if England is a place where he feels comfortable living.

    I'm not sure that turning this into a drama was the best road to take to Guantanamo, an illegal prison that I have opposed from the beginning. Using actors and putting this into a phony documentary format places it more alongside "This is Spinal Tap" than any of the better films in this genre. I am aware that documentaries made with nothing but archival footage can lie as well as in a dramatic recreation but I found it difficult to see the line in this between fact and fiction, where fiction is hearsay and the testimony of the four boys.

    I still don't know if 100% of this was a dramatization or if they used any news clips. Dramatization or prevarication? The film lost any sense of verisimilitude once American soldiers were introduced because evidently the director didn't bother to ask any in the know about just what sort of uniforms and insignias American soldiers wear. Even the American accents were phony.

    When they arrived at Guantanamo the Marines were the worse Marine impersonators ever.

    A few unanswered questions: How did all of the men die who were in the truck? It looked as if at least half of those who entered had perished inside yet they don't say how.
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    My comments are mostly for people that already saw the film. I give it 4, balancing the acting (8) and the credibility of the arguments of the three guys (1). Think: if it was a fiction film, would you believe that these boys (or men) were so stupid to go to the middle of a war just "on vacation" and end up in a Taliban center because the bus driver for no reason took then to there? If it was a fictional movie you would say that the plot id awful, for sure. ...And they expect for us to believe this in a documentary film?

    When they take the bus to go back to Pakistan, the bus actually carried them to a Taliban resistance center, with taliban soldiers so called terrorists, fighting against the coalition. Of course the Taliban wouldn't receive people with them unless they were sure they were on their side, they wouldn't receive four British civilian even when they were Pakistanis's origin.

    I want to be clear that I was against the war in Irak, and was not pro the war in Afghanistan. I am really against all this "petrol war", but I hate lies and I think this film is full of them.

    In the very unlikely case that they were really innocents, someone must be very, very idiotic to go the the middle of a war and end up in an enemy district, so in that case they also deserve what happened to then for being so idiots. ... But I don't think it is the most probable case. If they were taliban 's followers and became taliban soldiers, that's OK, it was a war, and they were captured. They must be thankful that they are still alive. And now they still fight this war, now with this film. It is biased and anti-American propaganda. I'm not saying that what everything Americans did there was all right, far from that, but please... the viewer must not be so innocent to believe the story told from a biased sight.

    What I rescue from this film is that it lets you see how the people live in those countries. One funny thing is when the Americans torture the prisoners with heavy metal songs, ha ha, I have a friend who does the same thing!!
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