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  • How does anyone really portray autocracy and/or fascism? In most ways, it can be done in the usual one-dimensional concoction of corruption, evil deeds, extreme delusion and paranoia amongst the ruling elites of the regimes. The Wave ("Die Welle") though looks at the issue from a different angle, examining how it can arise and entrance those it touches, and in the process makes the whole issue look fresh again.

    The basic story is that of a school teacher (an anarchist at heart) who has to teach a class about "Autocracy". Failing to get their attention, he decides to create an experiment whereby they are to create their own mini autocracy and rules amongst themselves (named "The Wave"). With such a controversial subject, the whole thing gets out of hand with the pupils succumbing to the autocratic fascist methodology with grave consequences.

    One important point that needs to be added is that its a German movie, and for historical reasons the topic is a delicate one, yet seems to add to the whole feel. The film is quite realistically disturbing in many ways, and shows how most of the pupils slowly fall for fascism in quite innocent ways. It will make you think and possibly reassess the important question, as asked in the film, if Autocracy can rear its head again.

    The writing, the acting and direction are excellent. Jürgen Vogel as the class teacher is both entertaining and thoughtful in his role, but the cast in general is exceptional especially as in the main they are mostly teenagers.

    If you like thoughtful films, and wish to see something that is questioning historical events in the present, then there is little to better this. Deserves to be watched. Its a film that will definitely be spoken about and re watched by many repeatedly for many years to come.
  • An amiable German social sciences teacher has to teach his children about an autocratic government. The children at first seem bored, not wanting to hear any more about The Third Reich and Nazism. The teacher is surprised. "We're too knowledgeable to ever fall into something like that again," say the students. The teacher then decides to show the children what it's like to live in an autocracy, and sets up a simple experiment in class. They elect a leader (him) and he begins to instill in them (merely as an example) the virtues and practices that accompany an autocracy ("Strength through discipline", "Work as one"). The students take to it, and become obsessed with it. Soon, what was a simple classroom experiment grows to a social entity all it's own, with the teacher not sure if he can reverse the effects.

    The film was very well acted and written, and was seriously creepy. It showed how - easily a society could fall into fascism, if presented to the society in the correct way. Watching the film, I understood why the students enjoyed the new system, but was also privy to the horrors that come with it. A shocking and powerful film. The way the different children reacted and how such a seemingly innocent experiment profoundly affected their lives was incredible and horrifying. Vogel gives a powerful performance as an idealistic teacher who isn't aware of the influence he has on others. Worth seeing.
  • stensson3 January 2009
    That's what the title "Die Welle" means. A teacher makes an experiment. He wants his class to understand what autocracy means. It starts with them stopping calling him by first name. Then they have to rise while addressed. Then, there are uniforms and a special saluting. And then, it runs out of control.

    The most disturbing thing is that the teacher slowly loses control over himself, until there is a disaster.

    OK, does it take a week to form young people to fascists? That's not the point. How ever long it takes, the interesting answer here is that it is possible at all. Do we run that risk too? Well, if you look into yourself, you maybe won't find a fascist, but you'll probably find someone who wants to be a part of something. Whatever it is.
  • This is a wonderful film with a superb screenplay and direction and great acting from its mainly young cast. I felt myself being drawn into the film in the same way as Mr Wenger's students were being drawn into his 'experiment'. The drama unfolds relatively slowly at first, but with gathering momentum and consequences. There is also a very moving portrayal of some of the tensions produced within some of the romantic pairings as well as the extreme anguish caused in one student by his heightened susceptibility. I think the depth to which personal relationships and social groupings are explored make this into much more of a fascinating drama than an exercise in the condemning of fascism. Please don't be put off by the subtitles. I can't recommend this film too highly.
  • This is my fourth German film and I'm digging them. Because you asked, I watched "Das Boot," "Downfall," and "Run Lola Run."

    I thought "The Wave" was going to be corny. I thought it was going to be about a group of simple-minded kids following a leader because of some bromides. It wasn't that at all.

    Rainer Wenger (Jurgen Vogel) was a teacher who was teaching a class on autocracy for project week. After a spit-fire discussion with the class about what autocracy is Mr. Wenger decided to do an experiment with the class. For project week only they would have to do what Mr. Wenger said. There were a few that resisted and left the class, but those who remained were all in. Slowly, we saw the evolution of a movement.

    "The Wave" is the negative side of populism. I say that because the Wave, meaning the organization they formed, could easily have been something good. Mr. Wenger had his students doing very constructive and positive stuff. Who doesn't believe that there's strength in unity, who doesn't believe in equality, who doesn't believe in helping their fellow man? Plenty of organizations, religions, and movements purport similar beliefs and they are viewed as being good. It's when people use these goodly aims to form radical armies bent on purging, "cleansing," or otherwise harming those who don't think like them, that makes a movement into a gang. And if the movement is large enough to engulf an entire nation it becomes an autocracy.

    "The Wave" gives food for thought. I think the larger lesson wasn't about being a part of something, I think it was about extremism. That very same group with more moderate participants could easily have been an asset to their school and their community. So I don't knock the Wave for its extremists anymore than I knock a religion for its extremists. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
  • Die Welle details how a project on autocracy gradually leads to disastrous results. Initially without enthusiasm to teach the topic, Rainer Wegner conducts an unorthodox experiment to demonstrate to his students (equally lukewarm to start with) what life would be like under fascism. Neatly structured by days, the experiment begins with simple disciplines and grows to become an exclusive cult named "the wave" with its own uniform and salute.

    Similar to his 2004 film "Before the Fall" which concerns the Nazi's seduction of youth, Dennis Gansel probes the individual psychologies that bring about uncontrollable collective movement, and how personal life is transformed by it. It offers a balanced view on an organisation like "The Wave" by enquiring whether it is a crystallisation of the students' class-free utopia (at the cost of losing individuality) or a community for those in need of belonging and empowerment.

    What is frightening is that many (though not all) of them voluntarily follow the conformity through reasoning. Ironically, the mob mentality engulfing the students is what they condemn formerly; even the "anarchist" Rainer finds himself intoxicated with his increasingly idolised status.

    An engaging and powerful film with a sense of humour, suspension (terror arises when the light goes off during Karo's anti-Wave poster distribution), twist (Rainer's concluding speech), believable characterisation and excellent acting (Jürgen Vogel, Max Riemelt, and Frederick Lau). Inspired by a true event in California , this intelligent film merits attention particularly because of its non-preaching and humanistic treatment of a heavy subject.
  • The Wave rides high (pun intended) on the new wave of film makers from Germany. The movie itself is shaped like a proverbial wave, starts gently and slowly gathers momentum and before you know it it turns into a powerhouse. The movie will amuse you, frighten you, disturb you and enthrall you completely.

    The movie takes a lesson in human psychology and shows how it is possible for a person with oratory skills and confidence to start a movement that turns into a revolution with frightening possibilities. It explains a lot about world history and current affairs.

    Theme apart, I don't usually like to discuss any movie's story but I suppose if you're here you would've read the other reviews and summaries and would know a fair bit already. Putting it mildly, the movie deals with a classroom experiment about autocracy which has interesting positive and negative consequences.

    The direction is sharp and spot on. The director is able to delve deeply into the minds of the various characters and explain their behaviour and position in the society that is created. It is all done realistically. The acting by and large is very good; however a few of the actors displayed a scope for further improvement. However this does not take away much from the movie experience. There are certain similarities with another great German film, Das Experiment, but not many.

    I am certainly going to suggest this film to people I know including people who live on a staple of Hollywood blockbusters and like to keep away from festival films. So if you get the opportunity to watch it, please do.
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    Director Dennis Gansel seems to like movies about the power of groups and how they affect the individual. All of his movies deal with this subject. I had some problems with his previous outing "Napola" (wrote a review on IMDb), but in "Die Welle" he gets most things right.

    Let's start with the negatives, just to get them out of the way:

    -I found the marketing to be too aggressive. That's not the movie's fault but one could almost picture the producers trying to find a project which will get hundreds of German classes into the cinema.

    -The big gripe I have with this movie is that it chooses the wrong girl as the heroine. Each of the students is a symbol for a certain type of students. Gansel avoids turning them into clichés, but they are symbols nonetheless. Most of the kids go for the movement, there are mainly 2 girls who don't. I don't have a problem with the first one, the smaller role. She is the typical hippieesque do-gooder who is almost fascistic herself in the way she is trying to get her own point across and thus creates an interesting and realistic persona. She values the individual, but by listening to her you get the feeling that she herself does not respect people who don't share her opinion.

    It's the other girl who is the problem. This is the type of over-achieving person who engages in all kind of projects, plans ahead for the future and does everything to succeed in life. She is mostly egocentric but can hide it pretty well by engaging in group projects. Nevertheless, she is a typical "Generation Y"-kid who only acts when she can find personal gain in it. This girl is the spitting image of the ideal that German teachers and parents are trying to create at the moment and that in my own personal opinion is just wrong. The reason why she quits the group initially is that a white shirt doesn't suit her well. In fact, laughable as it is, this is the one realistic thing about her. I am deeply convinced that this character would in reality not be able to look through this scheme, but that instead she would happily participate in the group and try to advance her own position by bringing in lots of more new ideas.

    In my opinion, the most realistic opposer would be an outsider who remains an outsider just because he feels unwell in groups. But this guy would be hard to identify with.

    -One minor point: The Turkish guy should not have been so well-adjusted to German culture. It would have been interesting to see how he would have reacted to the group and how they would have taken him in. The movie would be even more controversial if it had shown that this would be a way in which integration could work, even though with horrible side-effects.

    But enough about the negative.

    The movie works well even with its flaws. It grabs you from the beginning and does not let go. The movie adapts the novel towards modern Germany but sticks close enough the source material to realize the main plot points. Even if you know what is going to happen the movie makes you follow the plot and think along.

    What I like most about it is that it does not preach or give easy answers. It raises questions and forces you to think. Except for the very last scenes the events are never too much over the top and every single event by itself could find some sympathy in the viewer. This way you yourself are tempted by "Die Welle" and you have to force yourself to think why exactly it should be wrong to oppose it. In fact, in many ways I was reminded of school spirit in American high schools, especially while I was watching the sports scenes. There is no easy way out of "Die Welle" and therefore it makes it interesting for all nationalities, not just Germans.

    The movie changes the ending of the novel a bit. (Here comes the spoiler).

    Instead of revealing Hitler as the groups true leader, the teacher only gives a speech after which the events get out of control and a student dies. This is some rather shaky territory, because in this scene the movie really threatens to go over the top. I can definitely understand viewers who dismiss this movie as junk at this moment, but I think that it is actually a quite realistic scenario. Gansel wisely shot this scene in a very realistic way: he makes it quick, surprising and ugly and this way he makes it feel organic stylistically. It invokes the terror of school shootings and reflects one of Todd Strasser's other novels, "Give a boy a gun", and suddenly one understands the decisions of the character Tim, the boy who finally found a meaning in his life even though he still was not really accepted. He was now accepted as part of the movement, but not as an individual. Unfortunately he does not recognize this and this leads to the tragic events.

    End of spoiler.

    Final Comment: What I found most strange about the movie was that none of the characters knows "The Wave", since it has been taught to death on German schools. But I guess the movie would not have worked otherwise. Even though I believe that most people know about the story already I advise everybody to watch this update. They will definitely find something new in it to keep them thinking.
  • "Die Welle" is an above average classroom drama with a political voice. Helmed by director Dennis Gansel, film is unforgiving in depicting the youth as a generation without anything to rebel about but loneliness, making them sensitive to any sort of illusion of belonging. Mostly a riveting affair, film lags in its second act as it jumps into Dawson's Creek. Film goes ashore into a memorable finale. Straight forward filming will captivate audiences, along with a pleasing cast.

    Project week in a suburban high school entails them to study various forms of government and restriction. Rainer Wenger (Jürgen Vogel), an under-appreciated teacher finds a way in engaging his students. He cleverly manipulates his class to slap them out of apathy and disinterest with tiny minute changes which eventually builds up to a boil. Classroom scenes are stimulating as debates between the students are daring and engrossing – writing mention controversial topics that are usually not spoken with lethargy. Film focuses on a group of smart people, highlighting further that what's bound to happen is even more tragic and rings a bell to what can happen out of celluloid..

    Inspired by a 1960's social experiment in California documenting how easy it is to influence individuals, film looses track in its middle section as it begins to refocus on the individual lives of the students. Most characters seem to be run in the mill with general high school romance trouble, which would have been interesting but brings nothing new to the table. Stories work better as a collective rather than individuals, which further add to the intended effect. Some personalities shine though: students who never had any sense of belonging are indeed looked at with much heartbreak here as this false sense of security is embraced by them, motivating them to go a step further in preserving the society.

    Finale is spellbinding as even if it diverts a lot from the actual experiment, it still proves as a necessity to further establish a point. Film parallels to the effect of Third Reich within its members and climax reminds audiences of the Bruno Ganz header "Der Untergang", as it clearly parallels the extent of loyalties that may arise in such occasions. From the get go, death of a character is imminent and even with its shock value, it justifies itself as beyond a plot device.

    As an ensemble, the acting here is impermeable as they all deliver solid performances. Vogel especially convey solid work as the teacher. He brings gravity and his semi-bald haircut proves ominous. It's a shame that audiences lose connection to him midway though as he suddenly becomes the background to the melodrama.

    German setting of the movie elevates the film's status. It creates this palpable undercurrent, that even with a country that already identifies itself as guilty; it still cannot escape the possibility of anarchy. Even if the picture becomes stern with its themes, it still is digestible to the mainstream. Word of mouth can secure a life outside the tills.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    In 1967, Ron Jones, a teacher at a high school in Palo Alto, California, devised a "social experiment" among his students which he called "The Third Wave"; the idea was to show how easily support for a quasi-fascist ideology could spread. This experiment inspired the book "The Wave" by Morton Rhue, and this in turn served as the basis for this film, which transfers the action from America in the 1960s to modern Germany.

    The film starts with high school teacher Rainer Wenger taking a class on autocracy. Like Ron Jones he devises an experiment to demonstrate how easily people could be manipulated into supporting a dictatorship. He starts by imposing stricter discipline and goes on to create a group which the class decide to call Die Welle (The Wave). Nearly all the students join it, and eagerly go along with Wenger's idea that they should all wear a uniform of white shirt and jeans as a symbol of identification with the group. They also create a distinctive salute and a "wave" logo which they begin spray painting around town. They hold parties to which only Wave members are invited and ostracise those few students who refuse to join.

    Wenger is an anarchist by political conviction, so he presumably has no sinister motives in conducting his social experiment. Nevertheless, everything ends in disaster. One of the students, Tim, cannot bear the thought that The Wave, to which he has become totally committed emotionally, is a mere illusion, and commits suicide after shooting and wounding another student. The film ends with Wenger being arrested by the police.

    This bleak ending was not in Rhue's original book, but I think that it represents a change for the better. (It also suggests that the film-makers share my doubts about the wisdom and ethics of stunts like Jones's, which treat children and young people as raw material for experimentation rather than as individuals). Without it the film would have been little more than a "message movie" on the banal theme of "Democracy good, dictatorship bad". With it, the film becomes a more complex and intelligent discussion of the circumstances under which fascism might develop. One of its arguments is that support for authoritarian ideas can grow even in the absence of those factors which are widely believed to have facilitated Hitler's rise to power- economic depression, high unemployment, a weak government, an unpopular minority on whom all problems can be conveniently blamed, or an aggressively nationalistic ideology. (Indeed, The Wave does not appear to have much of a political ideology of any sort, except towards the end when Wenger starts introducing left-wing anti-capitalist and anti-globalisation ideas).

    More controversially (particularly so for a German film), "The Wave" also suggests that although fascism may have evil consequences, the impulses which lead people to support it are not always in themselves evil ones. The Wave is (unlike Hitler's) an inclusive fascism; membership of the group is open to all, regardless of race, religion or social class. The only students outside the group are those who have deliberately chosen to exclude themselves from it. Three of its keenest members are Sinan, a member of Germany's Turkish minority, Dennis, who is mocked as an "Ossi" (East German), and Tim, hitherto an insecure, unpopular outsider who has finally found a group in which he feels welcome and at home, which is why his eventual disillusionment causes him to react so violently.

    The appeal of The Wave, and by extension that of all populist-authoritarian movements, is that they provide a sense of unity, of belonging, of purpose. There is also an implication that liberal democracy has its disadvantages, that it can give rise to cliquishness, inequality and alienation. The two students who stand out most strongly against The Wave are two girls Karo and Mona. (They are later joined by Karo's boyfriend Marco after he and Karo have had a fight). Mona does so because of her genuine left-wing views, but there is a suggestion that the popular, intelligent Karo refuses to join The Wave because it is one clique that she cannot dominate and prefers to cast herself in the more glamorous role of heroic resistance leader. She distributes leaflets round the school with the slogan "Stop the Wave!", which may be a deliberate piece of irony by the film-makers- ever since at least the time of King Canute trying to "stop the waves" has been a metaphor for attempting the impossible.

    "Die Welle" can therefore be seen as a film about the failure of good intentions, as idealistic young students are tricked into supporting something quasi-fascist, just as many Germans and Italians in the twenties and thirties joined genuine fascist movements for what they thought were idealistic reasons only to find that they had become part of something evil. Similarly, Wenger's experiment, begun with the best of intentions, ends in tragedy.

    At one time the German cinema was sometimes accused of failing to take a hard enough look at the country's Nazi past. In the last twenty or thirty years, however, there have been a number of German films which have subjected that past to intelligent scrutiny; examples which come to mind are "The Nasty Girl" and "Downfall". "Die Welle" is another excellent film within the same tradition. 9/10
  • This movie underlines that man is a social creature. We naturally form groups, groups of friends, of people who like the same music etc. Especially when we are young, belonging to a group is important, it makes our identity, who we are -- as opposed to who everyone else is. And so the teacher in the movie uses what is naturally there, to teach his pupils about autocracy. It shows what happens when you stress that identity, when you stress the sameness, and thus also the otherness of those not belonging to the group. Eventually it shows how easy it is for one, for the group to slip, even without being aware of it. Autocracy isn't dead, it is alive and it is easy. This movie is a must see for everyone, but especially for the young.
  • Die Welle (The Wave) is truly a brilliant tale that lures viewers into its cleverly developed plot just as Herr Wenger lures his unsuspecting students into a sense of fascism. When Wenger, an affable schoolteacher who seems to be rebellious towards traditional instruction, gets selected to teach a class on autocracy, he is upset. However, he soon devises a plan with which to teach the students a valuable lesson on the sheer dangers of fascism and the ease with which one can be lured into it.

    His class starts out simple and nonthreatening. The students choose Wenger as their leader and are instructed to wear a uniform and create a name for themselves (the students choose Die Welle "The Wave"). But, this club slowly turns into a sort of fascist regime. The unsuspecting students think they are participating in some sort of fun club, but they are really being shown how easily impressionable people can be attracted by autocracy.

    The biting irony of this film is that at the beginning of the autocracy class, Wenger touched on the subject of Hitler's reign, and the students almost instinctively spit out answers about how Germany would never fall into that trap again knowing what they know now. But, the children soon eat their words when they become members of a much less disturbing, yet frighteningly similar clique.

    There is a glimmer of this fact when two students who aren't members of "The Wave" pick on a student who is. Two other members come to the rescue of the victim. Though many may view this as a positive aspect of this sort of togetherness, the point is that fascism has developed and can easily become corrupt.

    I highly recommend this to any potential viewer who either holds the same views as the students at the beginning of the film or simply wants to be entertained by the ironic theme of the film (so long as you don't mind the subtitles).
  • In order to make a week-long school project more interesting, Rainer(Vogel, a former anarchist) teaches autocracy via full immersion. He makes everyone part of it – one designs their symbol, another their website, etc. It starts out small. Standing when you speak in class, no chit-chat, etc. Over time, however, the movement of The Wave picks up speed, and things go further than anticipated.

    The characterizations(and only a few lack a fully realized arc) are strong, and through this, we can see the effects of the fascism on different people. Some are troublemakers, some a little too good in class, not everyone wants to go along, and the various interpersonal relationships and students' status will be either strained or strengthened. History does indeed repeat itself, if we are not aware of the signs – put on display here. Even a small liberal community, today, with all the awareness and knowledge. Something is lacking, perhaps common values.

    This gives compelling exploration of conformity, uniformity, rules, following leader and groups(in- and out-), among others. Everyone is a human being, there is no black and white. The alternate rock soundtrack, cutting and hand-held cinematography highlights and renders contagious the youthful energy of Die Welle itself. We are swept up as well, and the tension rises to its inevitable crescendo. Without credits this is 97 minutes long, with them it's 103.

    The 2-Disc DVD comes with 83 minutes of interesting extras: 23 and a half minutes of good deleted/extended scenes(clearly removed purely for pacing), a well-made 22 minute making of, 17 and a half minutes of cast/crew interviews, a 6 and a half minute alternate ending, 6 minutes of funny, at times hilarious, outtakes, a 4 minute music video Empty Trash, 3 and a half minute class visit, 2 minute concert video Digitalism, 1 and a half minutes with Ron Jones(who did the original experiment that this is based upon), and half a minute of storyboard-to-film comparison.

    There is a lot of disturbing and some violent content in this. I wholeheartedly recommend this to anyone interested in psychology, philosophy and/or history. 8/10
  • While the 2008 movie "Die Welle" certainly was entertaining and enjoyable, then it wasn't really as impactful as the 1981 movie "The Wave".

    Director Dennis Gansel managed to churn out a movie that was watchable and definitely had some interesting political and social aspects to it, some that definitely leaves you with something to think about. However, the movie just feels like director Dennis Gansel never really fully let go and delved as much into the storyline as he could have. There was a shallow feeling to the movie.

    "Die Welle" had some pretty good acting performances from a rather strong and well-casted ensemble of actors and actresses. As I haven't really watched an abundance of German movies, then I can't claim that I were particularly familiar with anyone of the cast list here, but there were some pretty good performances here, and some rather memorable ones as well. Especially Frederick Lau, playing Tim, he was just outstanding in this movie.

    This 2008 movie is a movie that you can watch at any time and draw parallels to parts of the world and society around you, however disturbing and offsetting it may be. But yeah, there is that socialism realism to the movie, and that is what makes "Die Welle" so memorable.

    But "Die Welle" (2008) was not a contender to "The Wave" (1981), not even by a long shot. The 1981 movie had much more of a punch to it, and it was definitely more in-your-face with its brutality and more disturbing.

    If you haven't seen "Die Welle" already, you should do so if you have the opportunity. But if the choice is between "Die Welle" and "The Wave", go for the latter, without a doubt.

    My rating of the 2008 movie "Die Welle" lands on a six out of ten stars.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    I'm always suspicious of the phrase 'based on a true story' when it appears in the opening credits of a film. More often than not, the basis of truth on which the fictionalised account that follows is based is so sliver-thin as to be nigh on invisible. This appears to be the case here, with standard (in fact clichéd) genre staples such as the girl alone in the corridors of a deserted school who is plunged into darkness when the lights are mysteriously extinguished (we never find out the culprit) inserted purely to add an element of tension that merely yanks the viewer from what is otherwise an absorbing and reasonably intelligent study of the power of the fascist mindset and its' emergence from noble ideals. There's also some gunplay at the end and a murder attempt in a swimming pool which we can be sure never really took place. The writers will no doubt claim such moments were inserted to emphasise the point they were trying to make - but sometimes they underestimate their audience, these writers, and end up insulting our intelligence. Others have cast doubt on such events occurring within the space of five days, but Ron Jones, the originator of the real Wave in California in the 60s, grew so frightened by how his little experiment was spiralling out of control that he called it off after just four days, by which time a reported 200 students had been seduced.

    Die Welle is a gripping piece of movie-making, despite the obvious flaws, and delivers a frighteningly believable account of how easily impressionable young minds can be moulded, and how easily the good intentions of such organisations (with its obvious parallels to the Third Reich) can so easily become tainted and ultimately erased, leaving only the bad to flourish. The fact that it's a German film, paradoxically weakens the subject - although it's easy to understand why it would be of interest to a German filmmaker; it would surely have been more powerful had it been based in America - home of the (on the face of it) most rabidly democratic society on earth. It can't happen here? Don't you believe it.
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    Imagine this situation. A Autocracy teacher develops with his students an social experiment about how dictatorships are created and he challenges the boys and girls who said that this kind of fascist regime would be impossible to exist in the 21st century. What kind of students are we talking about? High School Teenagers on a German school. The result was "The Wave" a thrilling movie about the dangers of what teachers told us to do, unlearned lessons, blind faith and the excess of discipline.

    The Wave is the name of the group created by Mr. Wenger (Jürgen Vogel), the teacher, in order to demonstrate (initially) how the Nazist, Communist, Fascist movements are formed and supported by people. Wenger makes his students march enthusiastically in the classroom, limits their verbal answers to simple words; manages to all of them dressed up uniformly in white shirts and blue jeans; instigates them to design web sites for the group; salutations; and more. And the students fell in love with this idea, because it works, they're helping each other, everyone is united for one cause. But there's more than one side on this story, there are the ones who dislike this concept and the ones who take Wenger's lesson to a next level, involving themselves in acts of disorder, or rejecting students who are not part of the group.

    As Mr. Nolan says to Professor Keating in "Dead Poets Society" teenagers get impressed very easily with everything a teacher says and in that case the director said: "Follow the schedule and teach them to be disciplined". Well, that was a story set in the 1950's and things were handled easily; here we have a story presented in the present time, and teachers need to "hold" attention of the students, and any method is valid or used in order to get that. And "The Wave" caught the students attention, they learned a few good things with it but they are gonna be able to sustain that?

    The contemporary society is so dispersed that we sure going to look positively to Wenger's idea of discipline and respect at first, and many of the students are going to follow him almost blindly (one of them even set his good clothes on fire, and only uses the new uniform). At the end it backfired! Everything got out of control and the lesson is thrown on us the viewers. Yes, dictatorship regimes can return again in every possible society and the teacher proves that with his experiment. Is it possible to control the fanaticism of the people who become fascinated by this new order? No.

    This experiment really existed and took place in California in the 1960's (the book written about it was this movie basis). The few things I researched about the real experiment don't tell about wrong aspects and why it was called it off but the movie points right on the target what can possibly go wrong. Germany as the scenery of the film was good, considering that a autocracy government existed in there (in the film the students even hates to discuss the Nazism in class). But I wonder what would have happened if "The Wave" was established in my country? One thing is sure: I think that would have fail from day one. Teens are so distant from political events, and the spirit of union demanded in the project would be impossible to achieve because of an enormous lack of union between students here.

    Another interesting thing portrayed here was the relative power of one person, not only by the teacher, but a girl who walked out of the experiment and tried to convince the other students of how things were going in the wrong direction. She refused to wear the white shirt, missed interest in the class, and even fought with her boyfriend believing that everything in "The Wave" was wrong. My tiny disappointment with the screenplay comes from we're never able to see what she wrote in her manifest against the group and the real reasons of why she hated all that. In short: if a teacher tells you things you can follow easily but if a colleague says another thing you won't even listen. An subtle look in History if we think about Hitler (people listened to him and supported his evil plans) and Churchill (tried hard to say that the world was in danger times before the war reach England). Again, the power of one person is relative and it changes everything.

    "The Wave" is one of the reasons of why I like movies. I hardly ever say something like this but this is so right and I can honestly say this about 150 movies I watched. Maybe more. Why I liked this film so much? It was dazzling, provocative, controversial, mind blowing, intriguing, pointed out an interesting discussion, and at the end it is one of these masterpieces that makes you want more, makes you have a discussion with everyone you know about it. Even more important: It urges viewers to look into their own lives and make comparisons of their realities and see what works and what doesn't works. These experiment would have worked in my country? What kind of person I'd be? A member of The Wave or a member of the Resistance? That kind of questions. This movie has everything I like to see in terms of movies. Without a good discussion, some questions and some answers you can't have a decent movie.

    Excellent performances by all the casting, greatly directed, "The Wave" is a must see film for everyone who enjoys great and difficult themes to debate. Can't hardly wait to see it again! 10/10
  • This is a German film (subtitled) about a school project looking at autocracy (a la Nazi Germany). In order for the teacher to persuade his pupils that autocracy remains a real threat to democracy, he persuades them to take part in a class dictatorship. The key difference between this and your average school classroom is that he convinces the pupils not just to obey but also to want his every command. Of course the project turns bad and things get scary.

    What I liked about the film was that it did not treat the pupils as "just kids"; they had brains, opinions, and their own ethics too. It is not a very black and white in it's opinion, you could draw some distinct opinion from the film but I suggest that there are several different opinions that are equally as valid. It keeps you guessing what is going to happen & even deliberately misleads you.
  • At first sight German socio-political thriller film The Wave initially just seems too cute, convenient and contrived. An extremely liberal German high school teacher (Jürgen Vogel) (of social sciences I gather) tries to give his students a first hand understanding of what "autocracy" means with a week-long role-play classroom simulation experiment: they get uniforms, quasi-military discipline, even a salute, whilst he, Wenger plays the autocratic leader. Well before the week is up, the "classroom experiment" takes on a life of its own, and virus-like spreads throughout the school and surrounding community, seemingly beyond Wenger's control.

    Frankly to me, it just seems unbelievable. But then after digging a little deeper one finds out that the movie is quite heavily based on Ron Jones' social experiment The Third Wave. He was a Californian high school teacher of history who in 1967, constructed the original activity to help explain to his class how the German population could accept the actions of the Nazi regime during the Second World War. And this does give cause to not give this generally well made film, short shrift. It does have some historical basis, which clearly resonates with director Dennis Gansel and his domestic audiences, all too familiar with their country's dominant role in two World Wars.

    The film is smart in that it observes the actions and reactions of a large cross-section of students to their collective role-play, rather than just a few. In doing this, it reinforces it's message of groups gaining strength through their numbers and shared behaviours. The standard of acting by the large cast is uniformly (pun intended) good and it should be added that they look like senior high school students of 17 - 18 and not 25 - 30 year olds faking it.

    However I think Gansel arguably tries to tell too big a story in too little time, resulting in lack of characterisation and undeveloped and unexplored story lines. Wenger has a wife Anke, (pregnant ... again I think ... there's a pattern here), also a teacher at the school, who we hardly get to know. They seem close, yet she leaves him on the Thursday of the experiment, after ONE argument ?? Parents, as in many films dealing with high school students, just seem to be divorced from proceedings, apart from one soul telling Wenger, his son likes his class. Similarly the school staff appear to have virtually nothing to do or say about the bleedingly obvious metaphoric occurrences on campus, until it's all over and too late.

    Speaking of being all over brings us to the climax and it's not spoiling to mention that the film's conclusion is far more melodramatic than that of the actual Third Wave, though fair to add, by no means beyond the bounds of credibility. It's just that once again, the final scenes of Wenger disappearing in the back of a police car raise unanswered questions of responsibility, liability, legality and ownership that the film doesn't seem all that interested in exploring, to its detriment.
  • Great idea but flawed execution.

    The central plot of The Wave was a good one. A teacher is teaching his class on autocracy, so decides to get them to behave as if in an autocracy. Within a short space of time he unintentionally creates a fascist sect.

    The implementation, however, is less good. Characters are badly formed, and are often extreme. The teacher is a one-dimensional hippy, trying to be cool and getting his students to like him. Some of the kids are too ridiculous to be real, eg the kid who is always making silly jokes and pranks without any repercussions.

    Some scenes just go nowhere, and/or are badly thought-out. Some of it is plain unrealistic. The ending is fairly predictable.

    In between there are moments of true profundity, especially as you can draw parallels between the sect and actual fascist groups in history, especially the Nazis. However, even these moments are diluted by not following through with the parallels.

    Overall, worth seeing, but could have been so much better. A tighter script, better developed characters, a bit more thought into the sub-plots and scenes, a more profound and unexpected conclusion.

    For a great exploration of a social experiment gone wrong, and a group as a microcosm of society, rather see The Experiment / Das Experiment. The 2010 US remake isn't too bad either but the original German version, made in 2001, is brilliant.
  • High school teacher Rainer Wenger (played by Jürgen Vogel) is assigned a week long teaching course on autocracy. His students bore at the thought of talking about the Nazi's again and are convinced a fascist rise to power would no longer be possible in contemporary Germany. Rainer looks at the motley group of students before him, and embarks them into a movement, baptised the Wave, which will show them how fascism rises.

    Based on the 1967 events in California, of high school teacher Ron Jones' demonstration of how the Nazi's could come to power. This movie, which follows the famous experiment, is set in a contemporary, affluent German town. The story is so well known, that not only do you pretty much know how it will all unfold, you can not help but wonder how come the students do not know the story if it is set in the here and now. And then there is the whole route from class today to the autocratic group - it is all so naive. Would they really not see the parallel between themselves and the Nazi films and anti-Nazi speeches they have been bombarded with throughout their youth? And all of this in a week?

    La Vague is like a teenage re-run of a story you already know, with a moral you already know. Even though it runs at close to 2 hours, it does not offer any new insight into fascism, politics or human psychology. The political vision portrayed is simplistic and does not help to understand the challenges faced by those living under autocratic rule today. Or, closer to home, the film does not address the subtitles of the democratic/ authoritarian balance faced by many nations today. Unless, by some unlikely series of coincidences, you have missed out on the whole story and need a (relatively) quick fix, I would miss out on this one.
  • fil-nik0925 May 2015
    It was on national television last night. I was curious to see it after a brief description on the net. And it was good.

    It says that it is based on the true story. I don't know how much of it really did happen, but the premise of the new group calling themselves 'The Wave' which is made of high school students is pretty interesting and who develop from a class experiment to a movement in just 3 days... Whoa!

    This is something that I don't really believe can happen. It may maybe in the course of 3 weeks...

    The acting of all teenagers was good. I guess the main male role is good too. The notion of new fascism or totalitarianism is kinda scary and it was a bit uncomfortable to see how people react when they are in a mob or a group. It is something that scares me personally.

    I give this movie a note 8. I have seen some other experiment type of movies with students, but this one is the best - from what I remember.
  • The Wave. It is a German movie and based on a social experiment by a teacher on its students that goes out of control. It works as a study of human behavior that manipulating mind of many at once is not a rocket science.

    The Wave is interesting because of its authenticity, its well etched characters, sharp dialogs and most importantly the underlined idea. Jürgen Vogel playing the accused and victim of the wrong doing does well and few key students characters support him well. As a nitpicking, what movie lacks is an unpredictable climax after surprising and engaging development of the story.

    I am going with strong 7 out of 10 for The Wave. Given the idea, it could have been much more impactful but still it has enough to entertain you and make you think at the same time.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    OK, it's always difficult to watch a movie, when you know the book/story. And its more difficult with this special story, especially in Germany. Why is the book so famous here? It may have to do with the fact, that the original story demonstrates that fascism itself is not in the German genome, but could happen anywhere, even in hippie-esquire California....

    Now, keeping that in mind and knowing that "Die Welle" was forced in book form upon generations of German students, what can we say about the movie? To me, the movie simply doesn't work as a film. Once you have recognized the point (immediately, if you know the book), the movie becomes too obvious in its pedagogical agenda, the characters act way too stereotypically, the whole thing basically becomes incredible. the only things that work are the sidelines (Tim, who finds a sense in his live when everybody is made equal, the slight drama of jealousy), and, in fact, the ending. These are the only things that are not completely predictable, and that do not tend to point a finger at the audience, trying to teach them.

    I don't agree with many comments that say the movie let's you thinking why the wave is bad, even if it has positive effects on community members at times. This is inherent to fascist communities, not to this very movie. In fact, the movie doesn't want you to think, it's always pointing at the bad side! Only exception here - see above: SPOILER:

    In the end, you are at times really tempted to believe that the movie left the book behind (it did after all), and that Wenger (the teacher) might have gone over to really become the fascist leader he depicted before (he didn't) END SPOILER

    Anyway, if you want to see an entertaining movie about group pressure getting out of hands and going terribly astray - watch "Das Experiment" - now that's what I call a movie!

    m.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    "Die welle" is a lesson in how vulnerable a society is when it falls under a spell of a charismatic leader. It reflects what happened in the not too distant past in Germany. Co-written and directed by Dennis Gansel, this is an important essay in why a group, or a community can be swayed into viewing their world differently. In doing so, the interaction between the leader and the followers suffers fatal consequences. Based on a real incident in California, the action has been transferred to Germany, where it even makes a bigger impact, taken the country's own domination by a political power that was so disastrous for that nation.

    When a young teacher, Reiner Wenger, decides to teach his students in autocracy, his experiment was to make his somewhat apathetic class to get more involved in a cause and to learn from previous mistakes. He probably did not imagine how things would get out of hand. At first, Mr. Wenger gives the students a basic outline in what an autocratic society is like. Little by little, the students are swayed into doing things according to the principles the teacher has planned for them, and ultimately, they go completely berserk by wanting to adopt ideas that are exactly a challenge for a democratic society. Wenger is caught by surprise about what he had created with the students. He begins to realize how far he has gone, as he appears to be leading them into a fascist society that sets apart from the rest of the other high school students.

    Jurgen Vogel, who plays Wenger, is a revelation. The actor gives a marvelous performance as the man that is able to change a whole class and turn them around in a manipulative way. Some of the young actors are quite excellent. Max Riemelt, Jenifer Ulrich, Frederick Lau, and the rest, are quite good.

    "Die welle" should be seen as a cautionary tale by serious minded individuals thanks to the inspired film by Dennis Gansel.
  • The original "Wave"-story sounds like a modern scary tale for very gullible kids. It is somewhat based on actual events and this movie is based on that story. It's a lot like those urban legends that use the "It really happened"-excuse to tell very improbable horror stories. The absurd plot: With very simple means a group of today's teenagers is turned into "fascists". "Die Welle" doesn't even start to try proving any plausibility, it doesn't give us understandable motivations or logic. It's just selling us it's thesis as a fact - because "It really happened, you know?"

    The story of "Die Welle" is much too ridiculous to be told. A teacher is taking a class on autocracy. He asks if such a regime would still be possible. His pupils - quite dysfunctional and egocentric, also quite rich kids - don't think so. He is going to prove them wrong. He starts to build his own autocratic society with them by telling them to stand up before they answer his questions. And they are all like: "Wow! That gives me so much power! I can really breathe deeply!" I kid you not.

    He doesn't teach them anything about autocracy, about the historical, political, social context that make it possible. It's all about formalities, about white shirts and sitting pretty (and probably getting grades for it). Of course the - obviously very "special" - pupils don't get their teacher's intention, they don't realize that this is a role play and just try to stay in character. No, they are really into it. In the end things are getting so stupid, it's actually hilariously funny. The growing "evilness" of the Wave, the new Sophie Scholl's "heroic" leaflet campaign ... and the teacher's / leader's big speech. Now - for the first time! - there has to be some content. Will he give us - out of nowhere - an enemy, some hate? Nope. He only delivers some lame clichés about rich people getting richer and a bunch of rich kids go wild applauding the idea that they are going to change this all over "Deutschland!". Totally inane, therefore funny.

    How could anybody take this movie seriously? Yet most reviewers do. And that's not funny. Not funny at all. Reading this reviews will tell you the political context of "Die Welle" and it's this context that turns this silly urban legend movie into an annoying piece of political propaganda. It's only one wave in a big sea of similar waves, but if you can't see it for what it is, you're probably drowning right now. No, really, you shouldn't like this junk.

    Everyone so devoid of critical thinking that he mistakes advertisement or propaganda for the real thing is very prone to fall victim to any totalitarian scheme. It's the good thing about propaganda that the "hidden" agenda has to be very obvious. So what are we supposed to buy? There is so much fascism in this world. Wearing school uniforms, following orders, working in a concentrated manner, joining groups - all this things will turn you into vicious murderous beasts. Your political and social environment doesn't matter. It can happen all the time, everywhere. It never does, but it could! Be afraid of a phantom menace! It's inside yourself! Be afraid, be very much afraid of yourself!

    Calling this scare-mongering left-wing propaganda is as ahistorical as "Die Welle" itself. If you have to watch this bland movie, you should pay attention to the "Wave's" counter-concept. Who benefits from herds of dysfunctional, stereotypical "anarchists"? And for the true believers: The Wave regulations had been totally normal in classrooms all around the globe at least until the 1970s. In many schools they still are. They've turned your ancestors into autocratic drones. I hope you didn't know that. Please consult your local "anarchist".
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