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  • This series really runs the gamut on storyline and acting quality. Not a lot of shows out there that are this hit and miss.

    The Crow gang is fantastic and Netflix really should do a spin-off with just them (or make the show about them). The characters are interesting and the actor who plays Kaz is fantastic.

    Meanwhile the main storyline with the Sun Summoner is dull and her love interests are frustrating to watch on screen. It's really hard to stay invested when the main character is unlikable.

    But no matter, the Crow storyline makes up for it and I've enjoyed both seasons one and two. Here's hoping for more.
  • I really enjoyed season 1 but season 2 was just a bit too messy with too many characters and too much plot! While that sounds good it was actually a bit confusing as to who was who and what the different story and character arcs were. By far the best thing about the show were the Crows and I do hope they get a spin off series to themselves. They were the most interesting characters with the best dynamics. Other than the Crows the actors in the rest of the show were fine but they - alongside their story arc - felt a bit generic fantasy and I must admit to getting a bit bored. All that said it's a fun watch overall and I hope that there is a season 3 to conclude the shadow & bone part of the show and I 100% hope that there is a Crows spin off with Kaz and his crew.
  • Supermanfan-135 April 2023
    I actually enjoyed Shadow and Bone more than I thought I would. It's definitely one of the better fantasy shows to come out in the last few years. While it's not the best, it's up there! I never read any of the books so I didn't know what to expect but have to say I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It has a little of something for everyone...fantasy, humor, action, drama, romance, etc. While it does take a few episodes to really get going, stay with it because it's worth it! I just finished season two and thought it was good enough to warrant another season. Especially with that cliffhanger at the end. If you like fantasy then give this show a chance, you won't be disappointed!
  • One of the best fantasy television shows I've seen in a while. They did a great job of developing the side characters and building up the larger political dynamics at play, while also giving time to the main characters and their relationships.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    Initially, I was hooked. Shadow and bone has a promising setting: late 19th century technology with magic on top. You get a lot of lore thrown at you and hardly any explanation, but, hey; I am okay with that. They explain things later, right? Well, perhaps or.. perhaps not.

    Unfortunately, they slit their wrists by using happenstance, contradictions and cliches to tell the story. And they add insult to injury by introducing new characters, while they haven't established old ones. Less is more? Just throw that under the bus.

    The writers are the culprits. They organized the story around cool moments. And then they had to connect them. And there is where it goes wrong.

    A key moment is when Alina's powers are revealed. She is on a ship that is trying to cross this mysterious fold, a rift filled with monsters. The ship is open, and the crew exposed. Then flying monster's attack and this crisis invokes her powers.

    The problem here is that the people know obviously that this attack can happen, but did not take any precaution against it, like roofing over the ship or putting most of the crew under decks. Or use a better transport. And a few episodes later a better transport exists: the conductor uses a metal train as transport the Crows across the fold. A train he apparently has built by himself, including laying tracks through that dangerous fold.

    And here we see the writers at work. They first needed a cool moment to reveal Alina's powers, then another to carry the Crows across. And thus they create an inconsistent world: open, vulnerable transport versus protected one. If the latter is possible, it makes no sense to use the first. Unless you need it for the story.

    The story is rife with these inconsistencies. Is the fold impassible? Well, no, because apparently entire armies cross it to fight each other. And people seem to go back and forth all the time. Or do they? Too dangerous, just perilous, or merely a challenge? Decide, please?

    Enemies teleport in whenever and wherever. Alina's party gets ambushed soon after her powers are revealed. They give a flimsy excuse: someone must have noticed her powers. Really? Because they saw her powers from afar? But even that is inconsistent. The people at the edge of the fold didn't see her powers, but the enemy did? And then quickly concluded what she is, who she is, where she is and where she is going? I mean, even the General was skeptical, but they knew for sure? It makes no sense.

    Alina's persona is also inconsistent. We get introduced to her as a bright, determined and inventive person. Then a few episodes later her character flips. She becomes a whiny, annoying and docile person. And not to mention she killed her fellow cartographers, but this hardly seems to bother her. Instead, she wines on and on about how hard her life is and about Mal, her friend from the orphanage.

    And Mal, the male protagonist, suffers too. He somehow became an expert tracker and an expert boxer between the orphanage and the army? How? When? Please explain? But no.

    This sort of writing is insufferable. You just make it up as you go along. They brush aside rules that are established at one moment, the next moment. The conductor tells the Crows not to move because it will throw the train from its course. One does and nothing happens. Baghra, her trainer, throws Alina out and tells her to come back when she believes in herself. Do we see that happen? No. Does she train Alina anyway? Yes!

    Is this worth your time? Well, perhaps. If you don't care about consistency and relatable characters? I guess you give it a ten. Hilarious.
  • Rob133129 September 2022
    Shadow and Bone is a solid, interesting fantasy series that will keep you entertained throughout each episode. While it's not the best fantasy shows to come out in the last few years, it's still a very good one that's worth your to time to watch. I never read any of the books so I didn't know what to expect but have to say I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I've read that it is a good adaptation so even the book lovers should mostly be happy. It has a little of something for everyone...fantasy, humor, action, drama, romance, etc. While it does take a few episodes to really get going, stay with it because it's worth it! The pacing really picks up once they build their world and characters. If you like fantasy then give this show a chance, you won't be disappointed!
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    I had never heard of the books before so I came to this without any bias. And as a fan of fantasy, I really wanted to enjoy but was it hard...

    The plot has more coincidences and anchors than I could bare. Just to name a few, the girl who is being hunted decides to hide in the very wagon of her hunters; a tracker manages to find a mystic stag without any effort while the powerful general had been searching for it for ages (even if the stag "chose" to be found, it is a way too long stretch).

    Then, in a series of fights, the guys with power to kill someone in a second instead choose to brawl, make villain speech and leave the enemies alive time after time, in the most predictable foreshadowing. Speaking of which, choosing an actor who always plays good looking guys who turn out to be villain is the mother of all foreshadowing.

    On the bright side, the visual effects are good enough and the locations are beautiful. But that's about it for me.

    Judging by the other rates here, it seems the series might have pleased fans of the books. But I sure won't be back for another season.
  • As someone who's read all the books in the grishaverse, I personally think this is an amazing and faithful adaptation. There are some minor changes to the characters, plot, etc, but I actually found that they improved upon aspects that were lacking in the books. I do think that it may be a little confusing for someone who is less familiar with the material, but overall the they do a great job fitting all the various stories together and having it all make sense.
  • Not so much because of a tight plot that always made sense, but because the casting was really done, with engaging characters, with even some character development. This is the first Netflix fantasy in a long while I've found worth watching- most have been somewhere between horrid and utterly ridiculous. This YA offering does lapse into predictabllity at times, but the actors save it, with very fine direction. Don't look for deep and profound here- just sit back and enjoy, mostly, the ride.
  • I was very disappointed by this offering.

    It was all over the place trying to tell multiple stories at once and failing miserably. What was the purpose?

    Predictable to a fault.

    The writing and direction wandered, the actors deserved better.
  • Fantasy shows on netflix is hit or miss, their biggest hit for me being The Witcher, this one comes in at a close second. It seems that they shelled out just as much of a budget for this show as much as TW. The sets, costumes and cinematography are all top notch. I find it interesting that the setting is like a fantasy world version of Russia. Plus gun battles and magic is not something I've seen in a fantasy show or movie before. The actors all do a great job as well, most of which are unknown to be except for Ben Barnes. I have not read the books but according to some other reviews the show is a good adaptation of them when usually their are massive changes. So if you are looking for a fun well made fantasy series this one is worth watching. I've watched half of the season so far and I'm trying not to watch the whole thing today but I'm hooked!.

    Edit: ok I couldnt help myself, I watched the entire season cuz I think it was that good. However I have one complaint, at times the show is so dark you cant see what is happening, especially in the season finale battle scene. I'm talking Game Of Thrones battle of Winterfell dark, hence the 9. Other than that this is just as good as Witcher and Stranger Things, another success for netflix. Damn it I'm gonna have to read the books now, Please make a season 2!
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    I read this series and was so excited for the Netflix version. I thought season 1 did a really good job of melding the grisha story with the Crows. Season 2 however, while having the basic story in place, added so much more and I was really disappointed how they forced the Crow's in to the narrative of Alina and the war in Ravka. I really wish they would've spent less time speeding through Alina's story, and gave us some progress with Nina and Matthias. I actually believe Nina and Matthias are the heart of the whole series. I also was disappointed in the portrayal of Nicholai, he was much more charming in the books. I think again, the problem is in the rushing to tell that storyline.
  • Well that was annoying.

    I really enjoyed the first season, but half way through the second season it all went wrong.

    So season 1 had solid screenplay, writing, acting, effects and felt like a great dark fantasy adventure.

    Little bits of wit and humour woven in here and there resulted in a well balanced introduction into the backstory, characters and entire premise of the world.

    Then along comes season 2.

    It's continues pretty much as good as the first and all is good, but... about halfway through the season there's a really weird but clear shift.

    All of a sudden it becomes incredibly cheesy, poorly acted, over theatrical, effects somehow get noticeably poorer and overall results in it becoming not very interesting at all.

    It's almost as if someone else took over but with half the budget.

    By the end of it, I had zero interest in the plot or the characters and just wanted it to hurry up and end.

    Season 1 gets a solid 7, but season 2 drags it down to a 5.
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    Great addition to the high-fantasy realm. A little cliche at times with the prophecy-driven "The One," but they make it work with good enough world building and CGI. The story-telling runs well with the complementing present/past character development, and the dark and gritty underground London-esque theming, similar to Carnival Row. Overall just happy to add more content into a thin universe of binge-worthy fantasy. Also the only reason I wrote this review was for the title, that only kind of fits, but sounds good.
  • Special affects are great. Story is a little slow in the beginning but ends up being well worth it! Makes me want to go buy the books because I want to know what happens next!!
  • Loved the first season. Waited patiently for the second season... all for almost nothing. There seems to be something lacking especially in the Darkling and Sun Summoner's storyline. I don't find these two characters engaging anymore. The corny script (or maybe taken verbatim from the book? I don't know) does not help either. I had to literally hit the pause button and distract myself with other stuff to rid myself of the second hand embarrassment after listening to such cheesy lines. The Crows on the other hand, well, I just can't get enough of them! Freddy Carter is such a joy to watch. He is the only motivating factor to finish watching season 2.
  • It's still fantastic, and it makes me wish I'd read them! I usually read a book series before watching the adaptations, but I just found this on Netflix. I did a little research to fill in the holes I may have missed, and I'm sure having read the entire book series would enhance your viewing, but you can definitely watch and enjoy without having done so. It's a beautifully well done series, and the acting is superb (Ben Barnes is always worth a watch). An intriguing premise and a whole new and creative world, in a sea of fantasy options we have available to watch these days (I just recently got hooked on His Dark Materials and The Witcher as well). It won't disappoint, when if you are new to the series.
  • Shadow and Bone is a good watch. It'll keep you entertained and the actors and actresses did a good job. The script was sometimes a bit dull, as was some of the CGI and the costumes. But for me, the show kinda fell apart the same way most fantasy Netflix shows do: pace.

    I would have loved a bit more world and character building. With a slower pace this would have been possible. The way they did it was neither a super fast action pace to keep you at the edge of your seat, nor was it a slowly building story where you could get invested into all the characters.

    Also most characters that appeared really weren't that relevant to the plot. Especially the Crows and Nina/Matthias. They were entertaining but there was so much else going on, that these 'fillers' wouldn't have been needed. The Crows did bring a lot of humor into the show and I loved the casting there, but still, I felt like it would have been better to hold their storylines back for the first season and only explore the world we find ourselves in and properly develop the three main characters of Alina, Mal and the Darkling.

    I think if we'd have gotten more time with the characters, the actors/actresses could have really showed all their potential and the world could have been much richer. This would have meant to put a bigger part of the plot into the following seasons, but I would've been fine with that. I'm aware that that might not be everyones cup of tea, but I'm a sucker for character study and deep and emotional storylines.

    The show has potential and as I mentioned earlier, it is very enjoyable. Just don't imagine a second GoT (earlier seasons) or Harry Potter. For me, Shadow and Bone is really more a stand alone new fantasy that will certainly mostly attract a younger audience but is binge worthy for all ages.
  • I was very pleasantly surprised so much so I binge watched the whole 8 episodes.

    The story is quite unique that in itself is a bonus as I am so bored of the numerous pathetic attempts of supernatural based sci-fi that don't try to be different This is different in a very good way I am not familiar with most of the cast but found the acting very good So a good start and I hope season 2 is of the same quality.
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    I like the effort the author of the novel put into world-building and I have to give props for how well the show was brought to the screen, with the choice costumes and shiny special effects enhancing the performances of a solid cast.

    I loved the clash between semi-modern weaponry and magical firepower. Especially how the power of the 'mages' was gradually being outclassed by increasing innovations in weaponry.

    But though the world was good and the characters were mostly good, the story was too obvious: the guy who you think should be the villain? Big surprise, he's the villain. With a very lackluster reveal that left me scratching my head and asking: why bother trying to hide it to begin with?

    I just think he could have been much more interesting as a morally grey character, a minor antagonist at worst.

    My favorite part was right after he cut the witch-hunter dude in half with his magic and the girl got all offended about it and he just says: "Would you rather I used a sword instead?"

    7/10 stars. I was entertained enough to stick it out, but I doubt I'd go for a second season.
  • I usually avoid these Fantasy shows but I was planning to test 4k and HDR and I just couldn't turn it off to go watch my usual crime dramas.

    Just my kind of pacing and non-linear storytelling.

    Mei Lei is so charming and jovial in it without seeming melodramatic despite her situation, hope her character remains that way.

    These baddies are quite endearing too, mostly due to the accent, gaits and postures.

    But I'd recommend people choose some moderately brighter picture modes if they're using HDR, otherwise it might look too dark.

    Hope the remaining episodes don't drag too much and it gets multiple seasons because the casting and cinematography deserves such rewards.

    I also wish the book fans don't start hating on it overwhelmingly because I was expecting the usual vile reviews when I logged in here.

    Give it a shot.
  • I LOVED the first season. It was pretty similar to the books it just combined two of the book series. Shadow and Bone and the Crows. It even made me buy and read the books. Season two took a turn the last few episodes. Without warning they changed the ending for a clear attempt at continuing the Netflix series. Making a certain character evil. And decreasing the value of several others. Disappointed in the outcome. Yet another string of disappointments for Fantasy genre. I feel like studio involvement got in way. It has been a little while but I remember certain characters dying, or dying in certain ways that they didn't.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    Let me start by saying that I'm a big fan of fantasy shows and I always tend to watch them with good eyes. So it was with season one. Solid, engaging and well produced.

    Season two was just a mess. I don't know why is so hard for fantasy shows to keep up the good quality from early seasons. Maybe a schedule thing? Like they need to release as fast as possible, I don't know.

    I'll start with the positives since is a shorter list. Good acting from most of the cast, good production (visual effects, figurine, different scenarios) and thats pretty much about it.

    Now with the negatives: 1 - No chemestry between the protagonists: Alina and Mal gotta be the worst love couple ever. Besides not having a single molecule of chemestry between the actors, the writting around them was so cheesy with poor lines, a back and forth decision making and a no sense conclusion. Like finally they can be together but Mal suddenly has no motives to stay anymore? What in the actual fudge? Halfway to season 2 I was skiping their scenes like crazy. So boring and annoying.

    2 - The story was all over the place: I'm almost 100% sure that season 2 was written by an 11 years old. No consistency, useless scenes with no credible events, at least in how they were directed. Here are some of my nitpicks: A) The prison arc with Mathias dragged for way too long. Besides, why is suddenly the Irish Villian became the boss of the prison being actually a prosioner himself? So silly. B) The Darkling starts the season weakened, suffering, and stays like the same the whole time, like that made no difference at all. C) The challenge involving the stag in season 1 was very cool and the one with the serpent sea ended in a 10min useless bad made scene. D) The magic system is not very well explained and too imbalanced. That is a full plate for writters to just come up with childish scenes that instead of hyping the audience up just annoys them. E) I'll just stop or else we're going to be here for a while.

    3 - Too many arcs going: this season had so much going on in different places that they had to rush it towards the end, making all travels almost instantaneous.

    4 - Poor fight coreography: thats it.

    Well, I don't think I'm coming back for next season. Only if they release a Crow spin off.
  • edathilsurya25 April 2021
    Too many good books are being badly adapted into live action these days- but I can assure you that this is NOT one of those shows. It has a greatly paced, easy to grasp story with many wonderful characters that will keep you on the hook for 6 hours.
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