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  • This is a first for meÂ…reviewing a made for Hulu documentary. Heck, up until very recently, I had no idea Hulu was releasing anything themselves. Fortunately, "Batman & Bill" turns out to be a really exciting and engaging filmÂ…one that comic book fans absolutely must see. The problem is that to see it, you need to have Hulu.

    If you are a comic book lover, you probably know who Bob Kane is. He's been credited for decades as the creator of Batman and during his lifetime he made a fortune because of it. He also achieved a god- like status by some fans. After all, he came up with the story idea, the costume, the Batmobile, the villains and the back story about Bruce Wayne losing his parents to some murderous thievesÂ… right? Well, not exactly according to this filmÂ…as well as according to Warner Brothers, the folks who own DC Comics. The story is about another man who created much of what Batman was but was never credited during his lifetime for thisÂ…and a man who died pretty much penniless and forgotten. The film does an excellent job explaining who Bob Finger was and how he actually is at least half responsible for creating the comic strip heroÂ…as well as the fight that his granddaughter had to go through to get this acknowledged. It's all quite enlighteningÂ…at least for me, a guy who isn't exactly a huge comic book fan.

    The film is excellent on just about every level. Technically, it's well made. It's obvious they did a lot of research to make the film and, most importantly, the documentary really packs a strong emotional wallop. You find yourself being emotionally pulled into the film and this is also the sign of an exceptional documentary. Well worth seeingÂ…and satisfying to see the man finally getting the recognition he so well deserved.
  • Incredibly touching. After watching a similar documentary on Superman, I was skeptical I would get anything out of this other than some mild entertainment.

    The two stories are similar but this documentary was so well done, that I was almost moved to tears by the end.

    I highly recommend this film.
  • If you are a Batman fan, you have to watch this documentary. It shows how Bob Kane took all the credit for the character which he didn't make and how the original creator of our beloved charter was underpaid and never given the credit he deserved. It is a tragic story of a man who might have been forgotten by history if a few people didn't continue to fight for him even after his death.
  • cbaw19579 May 2017
    If you are a Batman fan, this is the best 90 minutes you can spend learning about the history of the Caped Crusader. This is great story telling straight from the heart. The doc contains all kinds of trivia and history you never knew before. From the creation of the Batman character to the most recent movie, you'll find out things you never knew before.
  • One of my pet peeves when it comes to entertainment is when the creators of iconic material are not given sufficient (or any) credit—financial or otherwise—for their iconic creations. The example of this I always give is all Three Stooges dying basically penniless while their shorts will be played forever and make many other people much money. I realize that there is a legal side to all of this (sometimes creators "sell off" early in hopes of a quick buck only to see "their" property zoom in popularity), but I always have a soft spot for stories of "creators vs. studios" and the like. That is why I can give "Batman & Bill" the full 10 stars here and consider it one of the most incredible documentaries I have ever watched, as it unearths a truly hidden story from the annals of history and restores creative credit where it is due.

    Basically, "Batman & Bill" tells the story of how author/comic fan Marc Tyler Nobleman started a research project into the origins of the Batman character. Initially he had no idea what he would find, but very quickly he stumbled upon a bit of an investigative gold mine: Though Bob Kane was given basically 100% of the credit for creating Batman back in the late 1930s, in actuality a man named Bill Finger was involved in a great deal of the process as well (likely coming up with the iconic cowl/cape/symbol costume design and a number of the original villains). Nobleman sifts through old articles, recordings, and personal recollections to reconstruct the story of Finger, of which barely any was publicly known. In order to take his research to the "next step" of actual getting Finger credited for Batman's creation, Marc must find an heirÂ…which he (rather improbably) does, at which point the story morphs into an emotional tale of a family still grieving a death from many, many years ago.

    I think the reason that "Batman & Bill" works so well is because it turns into a great story on two levels: First, Finger's influence on the Batman character is utterly fascinating, as well as the belligerence (and sometimes out and out negligence) of Kane, DC, & Warner Bros. in keeping Finger's name off the Batman credits. Nobleman stays very fair and balanced throughout this entire investigative portion, fortunately, as the whole thing easily could come off as a ranting attack on "big boys" Kane/DC/WB. That isn't nearly the case here, however, as Nobleman backs up any claims on Kane's behavior with documented evidence to support him. The bottom line is that research and accounts show that Finger's name should be on the screen or page with Kane's when it comes to the "created by" credit, and it is amazing to think that this has been "hidden" (or at least not unearthed) for 75-odd years.

    Perhaps just as important, though, is how the story turns out to be a very emotional one once Nobleman starts unearthing people who personally knew Finger or members of the Finger family. Finger himself was bisexual and died from AIDS, both of which were much more taboo in the era they occurred (1980s) and thus hidden or swept under the rug. What Nobleman finds, then, is a family yearning to have some closure on the life of their father/husband/grandfather. At times there were tears welling up in my eyes, as Nobleman really was doing this family a great service in painting a picture of Bill Finger's life.

    Anyone who is a fan of Batman (in any iteration) or pop culture documentaries in general absolutely needs to see "Batman & Bill". In terms of investigative work and righting some of the wrongs of history, the documentary is a shining example of how that is done. For those who might say "who caresÂ…this happened 70-some years ago", all they must do is look at the impact this information has on the Finger heirs, and the "who cares" question is answered in emotional fashion. All told, easily one of the best documentaries I have seen in a long, long time.
  • zmos9927 October 2021
    Incredibly well done. This is the story of one man who realized that the cocreator a Batman died alone, penniless, and without credit for what he has done. One man who made it his life's mission to write that wrong. He thereby became Batman for the cocreator of Batman, Bill finger.

    I kept thinking how perfectly this documentary is done. The music, the interviews, the animations all serve to really move you. If you can get to the end of this with a dry eye, check your pulse :-)
  • Growing up as a child, I always saw the name of Bob Kane as the creator of Batman. I never imagined someone else was working with him or had contributed to the concept of creating Batman. I'd seen interviews with Bob Kane, and it always seemed that the Kane wanted to talk about himself and never said much about Bill Finger or Jerry Robinson, although they certainly contributed.

    The key word here is contributed. From other documentaries, it comes across as though Kane had the main idea, and that Finger and Robinson helped out. But how much? It's a toss of the dice, but if you're to believe this documentary by Nobleman--who did the research--and Argott, who filmed it--then Finger had a greater hand in the creation of Batman than anyone else realized, as did Robinson.

    When I watched Batman & Bill, it came across to me as a well-balanced, insightful, and rather sad look at how the comic book industry was run, and also the characters in that industry who would do each other out of the credit in order to get a larger paycheck. That was Bob Kane. I'm not disputing that Kane was the one who originally came up with the idea. His idea, his risk, yes.

    But Finger, apparently, suggested the major changes in the costume, the cowl (Kane originally had a domino mask and the costume was red), and the gadgets that Batman used, many of the rogues gallery, all of which Kane seemed--seemed--only too happy to take on as his own creative ideas. It is sad that Finger was--and there is no other word for it--cheated, IMO, out of what should have been half his legacy.

    This documentary sheds new light on the legend of Batman, its creators, and the men who created him and brought him to life. Highly recommended.
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    I can't tell you how overjoyed I am to have just watched "Batman & Bill" and learned of Bill Finger's place in comic book history. Batman has been with me for almost 50 years, through much of my upbringing and adult life. I've loved the comics, TV show, (most of the) movies... but I have to tell you how very much I enjoyed the Hulu documentary and the story that Marc Tyler Nobleman brought to light through his tireless investigative work. It's a story in itself that is worthy of inclusion in an upcoming issue of Detective Comics (if not now, maybe when #1000 comes around in a few years).

    Neither of the Batman creators (Bill and Bob Kane) are around to tell their own story about what happened in 1939, but the evidence presented here sure points to both men being almost equally important in the origin. If anyone from Mr. Kane's camp, DC Comics, or the Gotham Gazette/Globe/Herald/Chronicle/Free Press wants to present another side to the story, I would be more than happy to listen. In the meantime, I'm just one fan of many who wants to thank Marc and Mr. Finger's granddaughter, Athena, for procuring credit for Bill's creations.
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    As a huge Batman fan since I was a kid (39 now) I had always known of Bill Finger and his contribution to the character so if you are a true fan a lot of the first half of the doc won't highlight anything you didn't already know. However the second half which tracks down his existing family and the fight to get him officially recognised is worth sticking with it. On the downside I do feel it drags in places and some of it is quite dry but overall it's something every Batman fan should watch.
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    I find it relatively easy to love a good "underdog" story. Even easier lets say if there is some kind of huge kind of injustice attached, for me at least, the story is infinitely more engrossing. This is most certain what happened to writer Marc Tyler Nobleman when he researched a man named Bill Finger said to be the main writer behind the original Batman comic series beginning in 1939. Bill actually was believed to have more than even writing the comic storylines as he actually created the adjunct characters to the point of fleshing out acknowledged Batman creators bird man character to be a dark knight instead of a red leotard encased man with strap-on wings. Hopefully you are getting the gist of this. The man who claimed all credit for birthing Batman had some major help from his writer friend. This was unheard of until the mid-sixties and then Bob Kane rebutted it in the immediate years thereafter.

    What's a good story of any kind without major complications? The fight to get any credit or financial sharing for Bill Finger had major complications. Marc Tyler Nobleman decided it was at the least a great subject for a book. After all, Batman dwarfs all other comic book heroes in every measure. Of course that includes the on-going actual creation credit and revenue stream. Through an agreement with sole acknowledged Batman creator Bob Kane DC Comics, which is a Warner Brothers asset, wholly controls the mega-industry of everything Batman. Warner Brothers is a part of the even richer Time-Life empire. The old saying is "you can't fight city hall" and Time-Life is many times bigger than the best funded towns, anywhere.

    Batman & Bill is an extremely well made documentary about how a small time, but successful, writer Nobleman began a groundswell to restore credit to Bill Finger as an equal to Bob Kane in the creation of what we all must admit is the most loved comic book superhero of all time. This film is an easy to follow linear journey of Nobleman's almost spiritual belief that Bill Finger's input in what became Batman was on par with credited creator Bob Kane. The quest consumed Nobleman even above his original plan to write a book about Batman figuring in Bill Finger as an equal to Bob Kane. In other words, just a published book about Finger's having a major stake in the Batman character wouldn't enough. This was a case of a tragic injustice that seemed to never end. It surely could be righted if all the known facts came to light. Nobleman's obsession became to get Finger credited on an equal footing to Kane...at least credit because the financial part was for others to flesh out. It's a kind of epic journey. Along the way we get "just the facts" as Nobleman continues to uncover more proof, and even insider talking heads, that knew Finger not only wrote the original Batman comic series but went way further by putting his own stamp on the very image Batman became not to mention the many related characters on both sides of the law.

    This isn't the opinion of one man, but the proof provided by many which even included recorded statements by Kane after the death of his co-creator Finger. It gives this story some amazing legs. This really is a major injustice, and one that could go forever without correction.

    I say you need to see this documentary. In it's realm it is huge as it takes us through a long journey to a satisfying conclusion. We're not privy to the entire resolution, which obviously should include some kine of financial agreement, but we get Nobleman's goal achieved of having the copyright holders of the character Batman agreeing to acknowledge Finger's role as co-creator. What we go get a nice glimpse of is the emotional part of the journey which after dogged research by Nobleman included Finger's sole surviving ancestor along with a smattering of other family members. This is a real-life story of justice being served...late, but nonetheless finally coming through. In that the tragedy gets a huge uplifting which is noble indeed.
  • Truly a beautiful story told in a very interesting and emotional way. The success of one of the greatest hero\brand in the world contrast with the story of his recently "discovered" cocreator. Bill Finger's credits is not just a win for his family or his legacy, is a win for what is right and what is fair, after all, isn't that what Batman is all about?
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    You ask me up until this writing who the creator of Batman was and I always said "Bob Kane"...up until this documentary. Truly eye opening and informative..and even a little sad. Bill Finger was an unsung creative hero that helped shape not only the character of Batman, but many of his sidekicks, and villians. If your a fan of comic books, you NEED to watch this doc!
  • This is an interesting one-sided argument. However it does ignore any investigation towards Bob Kane's contribution to the creation. Focusing purely on the speculative works of Bill.

    A statement is made early on in the film, that Bill was paid as a "Ghost Writer". Perhaps he forgot to look up the definition of that, because if true, it justifies everything Bob did, even if Bill did create it.

    And later on, the film shows early design templates that Bob came up with, that apparently Bill developed further. A friend offering ideas and suggestions to someone else's work, is a bit different to plagiarism or whatever else they are trying to suggest. The original templates were developed by Bob, regardless of what changes were made along the journey to publication.

    And lets just say for arguments sake, Bill came up with the design. Bob was the marketing business expert who risked actual money and time into publishing him. Comics books were a new medium, and other superheroes had failed. He was the risk taker, who compiled the team of writers, artists and colourist and steered the ship as it were through war time and kept the dream alive.

    This documentary needed a deeper look at what Bob Kane added the equation, to balance out the argument and allow the viewer a clearer understanding of how much credit Bill deserves, and for what.
  • doomedmac25 March 2020
    Really awesome documentary about the real creator of Batman. Very well-made.
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    I now recall seeing e name of Bill Finger at the end of the Batman vs Superman Dawn of Justice film, but didnt remember the name until after I saw this video. I might have seen it again in THE Batman or the Justice League movie that released before that, maybe even looked it up, but this documentary solidified that mans efforts and the legacy they lead to. No doubt Bill Kane of course still was a major contributor to the creation of Batman and other characters, but surely just because of a shady lil clandestine handshake, Bill Finger should not have gone years without royalties, or at least proper recognitions.

    We are not talking about ghost writers of periodicals, magazine articles, or little additions to biographical works...we are talking about the man whom quite literally wrote most of, if not almost all the nuanced information that made Batman whom he would be. And thats on top of the multitude of other characters that already were birthed into being in those first halcyonic years of the caped crusders existence. I have seen some reviews from people lamenting " Oh give Kane his due" or "Well Finger was just a ghost writer, blahblah"...well Bob Kane lied a lot, to the detriment of his friend and his friends family for decades afterwards. The money that could have been gotten from the royalties that should have been due to at least the estate of Bill Finger long ago, were a long time coming...And no, im not "giving the finger" to Bob Kane. And no jokes about "raising Caine" because the names not even the same to be a proper pun. But the man did screw over his buddy. BIG TIME. But still Bob kane did have a good hand in making the DRK Knight come to life as well.

    Yet Having worked with close friends in the past that also took advantage of my works without rightm and the fact that some of my own elders have begun to pass away very recently, this documentary was doubly impactful...not to forget that I also grew up liking Batman. From the first comics, to the 1989 movie I saw in Theatres as a 3 and a half year old, the the other movies, games, comics I got more into, and the Batman animated series and toys, the character had a deep impact n me for much of my formative years. Wasnt my fav character by middle school, but I always came to theatres to eventually see the latest Bat flick. And now, when others see the films, on whatever device or wherever...Bill Finger shall at least finally get his accolades. Much deserved, overdue, but I guess better late than never. And props to the man that was the true detective in making this all come to light. Blessings. 8/10 for this worthwhile documentary.
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    I know, this is supposed to be a review of the movie and not a book review. Nobleman includes a lot more detail in his 2012 book that should have been included in this film. A more balanced view of the Kane/Finger dispute. I'm not sure if he tried, but Nobleman should have interviewed key Batman writer Denny O'Neill, who was still alive when this film was made. And Batman artist Neal Adams, one of the best. Adams was all about the creativity rights of comic book artists and writers. I'm sure he would back the campaign to give Bill Finger proper credit. Neal, if you're reading this, please respond and correct me if I'm wrong. Sadly, artistry-wise, Bob Kane was no Neal Adams, but Bill Finger was a writing peer of the late, great Denny O'Neill. To sum it up, Bob Kane was to Bill Finger, as DC Comics was to Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, regarding Superman.
  • SHB_7321 June 2023
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    I am a huge comic book fan. One of my all time favorite Superheroes is Batman from reading Batman comics to watching all the Batman animated series. All my life I always thought Bob Kane was the creator of the Dark Knight because every Batman story I read had Bob Kane as the only person credited with creating the character. This documentary tells the true story of the man that never got the credit for co-creating the Batman: Milton "Bill" Finger. The documentary shows that while Bob Kane had the idea for a character called Batman, it was Bill Finger who was the one who convinced Bob to change the design of the character (Bob had designed him with red tights a domino mask and bat shaped wings) but Bill suggested costume ideas that would make Batman look like he does today. Writer Marc Nobleman who stars in the documentary goes on a personal quest to have Bill get the credit he deserves. Bill not only redesigned the Batman costume but is credited with creating the Joker, Robin the boy wonder, Penguin, The Riddler, the Batcave and the Batmobile. Marc eventually succeeds in his quest when he finds Bill's granddaughter Athena and she is able to convince DC and Warner Brothers to have her grandfather credited on every book, tv show, and film (Batman vs. Superman was the first movie Bill got a credit.) from now on. I have to admit after watching this I lost a lot of respect for Bob Kane for never giving credit to Bill for over several decades. He made a deal that gave him sole credit for creating Batman and while he lived a life a fame and fortune, Bill died in 1974 broke and penniless. This is a documentary I highly recommend to anyone who wants to know the true story of the creation of one of the greatest pop culture figures in world history. Thank you to Marc Nobleman for doing this so now whenever you buy a comic book see a movie or television show, you will now see the credits: Batman created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger. RIP Bill.
  • Interesting subject but the egotrip of Marc Nobleman is really weird. All the other speakers are interesting though. Also, in this story, does someone care about Bill Finger's granddaughter? Cause the subject takes at least 30 minutes of the movie...
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    It's a one sided telling of the story. How do we not know the opposite had taken place and Mr. Finger was taking credit? I don't know but opposition is never introduced. The documentarian makes this too much about him in parts. He accuses that Mr. Cane was an attention seeker but he is just as guilty. Most modern documentarians are guilty of this as well. The granddaughter seems like she's an attention seeker as well. Like most people today, notoriety is king. If this one sided story is true, it's sad and a definite injustice. But it would have been great if both sides were explored. I assume Mr. Cane has living relatives. Would have been the responsible thing to reach out.

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