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  • I'll be honest, Dark Fate is more mediocre than unwatchable, probably the best Terminator since T2... yeah, I know, the bar is so low, it's like limbo dancing at this point. This feels similar to The Force Awakens: in itself a slick, decent movie, but I've already watched the much better original, so thanks but no thanks.

    Positives? Mackenzie Davis, for whom I've had a hopeless crush since seeing her as a cute NASA geek in The Martian (and then again in Blade Runner 2049), plays a relatable, compelling character, with an intriguing mix of power and vulnerability. There are also a couple of neat set-pieces, especially in the first half, before everything becomes over-the-top tiresome.

    Linda Hamilton and Arnold show up for fanservice. It's kind of nice to see them both back with significant roles but, as is typical of fanservice, it's like gorging on too much chocolate: tastes good at first, but then come nausea and a vague feeling of shame.

    My main point is, the Terminator series is now hopeless, as the last movies, especially Genisys, have poisoned the well. The continuity is a mess and keeps being rebooted, so everything is pointless: no development can feel meaningful. Show of hands: who would be particularly surprised if the next Terminator movie was once again about John Connor leading the Resistance in another alternate continuity? No one? Thought so.

    Also, the new villain being so talkative was possibly the single stupidest idea in the whole project. You know why Arnold in T1 and Robert Patrick in T2 were so terrifying? Because they shut up! They said very little and, the few times they spoke, it always felt like something they did out of pure necessity (probing for informations, setting up a trap) but was fundamentally alien to their nature.

    This Rev-9 tries to talk its antagonists out of fighting him! Can anyone picture the T-1000 reasoning with its targets? The great Robert Patrick studied and imitated the body language of birds of prey to look creepier and inhuman, and the new bad guy wants to chat. Give me a break.

    5/10
  • JasonXIX15 January 2020
    Warning: Spoilers
    This really isn't a sequel to T2. The plot of this movie actually negates the first two movies, only to retell a similar story. There are some great action sequences, but the story is basically the same as previous Terminator films: Someone from the future is sent back to the past to protect the 'only hope' in the future.

    We know from T2 that Skynet is stopped, so Judgment Day never happens. But none of this matters, because a new company called Legion, ends up doing the same thing in the future anyway. Basically, this movie tells us that an AI Judgment Day is inevitable. Even if they stop Legion in this movie, another company can just take its place in any future sequel.
  • In its core its a rehash of everything we have seen before only worse. As many said before some characters are almost a parody of their former selfs. The writers wanted to mess with the viewers expectations. So they also included a couple of surprises that no one asked for. They even succeeded in gender swapping a key character which happens a lot in movies theses days. And of course lots of stupid jokes. The action seems to be all CGI so nothing really exiting happening. I hope they won't do another one. Its depressing to see a franchise getting destroyed this way.
  • The Terminator franchise is a defining one in the genres of sci-fi, action and horror. While the imagery and the catchphrases have become ingrained in popular culture, the film series has struggled to recapture the glory of the first two entries. The underrated spinoff television series was sadly short-lived. James Cameron, who directed the first two films and helmed the theme park attraction but has had no direct involvement in the series since then, returns as a producer for this sixth film.

    Terminator: Dark Fate learns from the failure of the previous entries. The most recent Terminator film before this, Terminator: Genisys, was a jumbled mess of multiple timelines and attempted to remix beloved elements of the series, alienating fans in the process. Dark Fate benefits from more of a back-to-basics approach, presenting a straightforward story without relying too much on exposition. It functions as a direct sequel to Judgement Day, with all the other films taking place in alternate timelines. This is not dissimilar to 2018's Halloween, which was a direct sequel to the 1978 movie and ignored the many sequels that were made in the intervening years.

    The film's biggest asset is Linda Hamilton, who has not appeared in any of the films since Judgement Day. This is much more than the glorified cameo which we could've gotten, with the Sarah Connor character front and centre. Hamilton took some convincing to come back on board, and the film really wouldn't have worked if she had said no. Hamilton easily conveys the no-nonsense toughness fans of the series know and love, but also delivers a genuinely good performance beyond that. The R-rating means that she gets to swear a whole lot, and she's amazing at it. There are several moments when just a look from Hamilton tells us so much. This is a character who has been through the wringer and would like the world to think she can just shrug it off, but there is a lot of sadness and pain that she's internalised - when those shards are visible, that's when Hamilton's immense contribution to the movie really registers.

    Arnold Schwarzenegger appears in more of a supporting capacity, but completely steals the show when he's onscreen. The film wisely makes use of Schwarzenegger's comedic talents while also preserving the formidable physical power associated with the T-800 character.

    One scene in the film showcases the most convincing digital de-aging/face replacement effects I've ever seen.

    The film clearly aspires to the heights of Judgement Day, so it is noticeable when it falls short of those heights. There are moments when the film is almost emotional, and while there are some moving beats, there is nothing nearly as sublime as "I know now why you cry, but it's something that I could never do." While the stronger connection to the first two films anchors Dark Fate in the tone and mythos of the earlier movies, it also prevents the movie from being too innovative on its own terms. Also, much of the events in Judgement Day seem to have been rendered moot - not quite to the level of "Ripley finds Newt and Hicks dead at the beginning of Alien 3," but it does approach that.

    While some action sequences are brilliantly executed, others feel just a touch too synthetic. The visual effects are leaps and bounds over the somewhat unpolished work seen in Genisys, but there are still moments when one thing made of CGI is being thrown into another thing also made of CGI. Out of necessity, the earlier films made ingenious use of practical animatronic effects and miniature models. Director Tim Miller of Deadpool fame is a co-founder of Blur Studio, best known for making animated cutscenes and cinematics for video games. The action sequences in Dark Fate can sometimes come off as a little too video game-esque, but Miller does often demonstrate a keen awareness of how to place elements in space to create action sequences.

    The Dani character is sympathetic and Natalia Reyes gives the role her all, but she can sometimes come off as a little whiny and is not written that well.

    Another way that the film echoes Judgement Day is in its villain, the shape-shifting Rev-9. Like Robert Patrick, Gabriel Luna is less conspicuous in a crowd than Arnold Schwarzenegger, meaning the Rev-9 is more convincing as an infiltration unit. It also has a neat gimmick of being able to separate itself into liquid metal outer shell and endoskeleton, allowing it to perform tag-team attacks. Rev-9 is perhaps a touch too indestructible, such that the action sequences become a little repetitive.

    Mackenzie Davis' Grace is a great addition to the canon. This reviewer enjoys seeing actors whom one wouldn't typically associate with action movies take on action-heavy roles. Davis underwent a complete physical transformation to play the muscular, angular Grace. There is a tragedy to the character, who has sacrificed her physical autonomy for the cause, so she is always sympathetic.

    Terminator: Dark Fate is in a way commenting on the history of the series. There is so much that's memorable about the first two Terminator films that it's hard to resist the temptation to make constant references to them. Yes, Sarah Connor does say "I'll be back", but Dark Fate demonstrates restraint and refuses to lean on the series' storied past as a crutch.

    Terminator: Dark Fate is not a film that strictly needs to exist, but by building a strong connection to the second film and by getting Linda Hamilton back in a starring role, it satisfyingly echoes the franchise at its best.
  • The action scenes are the best I've watched, the CGI and deaging of the actors because of the end of the second installment (28 years ago) is amazing. All effects in general are very good. Good direction. The performances seeems VERY GOOD. Still it seems saturated with the action, too much and lacks taste. The film also starts well and then falls into a hole and has a hard time getting out, SSSLOWWW and when Arnie comes, it gets up; i don't feel good tempo; slow by pieces and a lot of action on others, that is, I don't think it has a good editing. Is it bad? NOT AT ALL, but it didn't convince me. Worthy sequel to the first 2. Many will hate it for what they did with a certain character.
  • celt0075 November 2019
    Doing the same thing expecting different results . What is the point? This PC bs is to contrived and forced Takes away from the film going experience ! Besides what is different ? It is same story we've seen in the first 2.
  • alienlegend24 February 2023
    Warning: Spoilers
    Besides that opening and some truly stupid additions, the basic story is T2. Instead of Skynet, it's called Legion now but it's essentially the same except it sucks. Don't watch this. Really just rewatch The Terminator or T2. None of the other films really add much. Some are ok, some are just downright awful, and some are complete trash. How completely convoluted they make this film is really impressive with different Terminators being sent back all the time and Sarah Connor gets coordinators from the Terminator who killed John but grew a conscience so then she goes to kill each new Terminator as it appears. Is that a freakin joke? How stupid is that? And the T-800 that killed John has a wife? Seriously? Wtf guys? How many freakin idiots did it take to write that crap? Remember the awesome stunts in T2 like a real helicopter flying under a bridge. Well forget that it's all CGI in this puppy and none of it has any impact. Don't watch it. I wish I never did.
  • greasykid12 November 2019
    Seems like literally everyone's a critic these days, huh?

    Terminator: Dark Fate is guilty of almost everything that people are now "accusing" it of. Yes, it kills John Connor in the opening few minutes. Yes, it rehashes the plot of a superior movie in T2 ...

    But the one star reviews are nothing short of ridiculous. Viewing it as a continuation of the Terminator story, yeah, it's not the best in the franchise. But it's certainly the best of the sequels that have followed T2 so far. not a very high bar, people say. Yeah, maybe so.

    But T:DF is undeniably an exciting ride, with slick special effects, great set pieces, and a decent storyline, penned by James Cameron himself. Seriously, if you want any continuation of this franchise at all, you need to allow Cameron to tell his story.

    The backlash aimed at this movie is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not going to claim that it's a masterpiece, but to me, it feels like most people are jumping on board with the one star reviews just to seem relevant and superior.

    This movies does for Terminator what The Force Awakens did for Star Wars. The Force Awakens got it's fair share of criticism, but in general, people gave it a CHANCE and were a little pragmatic about it.

    Again, if we want the story to continue, we need to introduce new characters and tell the story from their perspective. John Connor is dead because they TRIED to keep him alive, and found it impossible to tell the story believably. So Cameron has moved on and brought us a sequel that reboots the franchise.

    If you don't want further sequels, fine. Don't watch. But this over the top reaction from people is going to serious impact Cameron's chances of even getting the opportunity to tell the 3 movie arc that this installment has started.

    On it's own merits, this movie easily deserves 6 to 7 stars, and people whining about feminism and the derivative nature of the plot need to stop pusing their own narrative and realize that almost EVERY movie is derivative in one way or another.

    Again, watch it or don't. But giving overly negative reviews helps no one.
  • dk7776 April 2021
    A truly dark fate for the Terminator franchise.

    Too bad, because the film could have been good but the script is disastrous. The T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) has been turned into a ridiculous parody, and after all the whole film seems like a parody of previous films.

    The dialogues are comical, the characters are hilarious, and the film is tedious and boring. Another franchise that the writers managed to destroy.

    The writers simply could not restrain themselves and managed to destroy this film. The movie had great potential, but in the end it turned out to be a total failure.

    The villain just talks too much and most of the characters are irritating. Not even an R rating can save this disaster.

    The so-called entertainment industry has almost nothing to do with entertainment anymore.

    Truly disappointing, this is the reality of today's film production, the good special effects and the catastrophically bad script. Watching this movie turned out to be a total waste of time.

    It's really sad to see what the Terminator franchise has become.
  • I really enjoyed this movie. I thought the story could have been better, but I thought the acting, action sequences and humor made up for it. This movie isn't perfect but it's a fun movie to go watch that has some heart to it. I recommend this movie to anyone who wants to have a good time.
  • There's nothing wrong with this movie, as the ratings seem to suggest. It's a good movie: the action is good, the plot isn't overly complex like Genysis, and it had a cool new setting and characters. The new characters are great and complement the classic ones well.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    All along Grace knows that her power source would fry his (rev9) neural net... yet human in the future struggle and running from machines. Rev9 is the most advanced model and they killed him easily.. i really don't get this kind of thinking. Millions bucks spend.. done
  • As a huge Terminator fan, I am rather fine than dissatisfied with Dark Fate.

    Reviews are full of hatred and devastation... Apparently, I wasn't expecting a legendary T-movie as if we were talking about T-1 and T-2. You can't touch them and you shouldn't. Though Dark Fate puts its events after T-2, it can't be matched with the other two Big T-s.

    Yes, there are plenty of clichés in the plot and all of them are painfully boring. Sure, there are some gaps and theory-craft moments, but still. Maybe it's just me... Yet, I was expecting worse. Much, much worse.

    In fact, Dark Fate is more like Action + Terminator, rather than Terminator + Action. All in all, the movie is fine. If you are a big T-fan, just give it a go. I'm sure, you are gonna be AT LEAST okay with it.
  • It's not a bad film but it is pretty much T2 with the male cast replaced by a female one, again not a bad thing but it doesn't bring anything new to the franchise.

    Odd way to recon the previous 'sequels' though, it seems they just can't stick to a plan for the franchise.
  • faisalbhuiyan2 November 2019
    I liked the film and I think it is different which is good to see. I hope they continue with the new concept.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    What a way to finally kill a franchise, and completely ruin the classic story of Sarah and John. Don't waste your time watching this.

    Original 1 and 2 are classic, salvation at least follows the story and we get to see John Connor grown up, but this is void of any characters, especially John.

    Makes no sense and brings in a new judgment day and AI that is not explained and are just there to replace the story they are trying to reinvent.

    However they are void of any character development, story or any purpose.

    A cheep rehash and embarrassing remark that could bore you to tears.

    These new characters have little to no dialogue and the terminator that keeps coming back from a future that does not exist makes no sense at all.

    How does Sarah manage to kill them when it took 4 people (including a daddy terminator) 2 hours to try and kill this one in the movie.

    Please do not torture fans with any more of this.
  • It's like this, if you're a fan of the original and T2, you need to watch this. Put the other Terminator flicks out of your mind. In fact, pretend they never existed. Dark Fate is fun and it brings those old feelings back. Watching Sara Connor be an older version of herself is pretty damn cool, Grace is so badass, mankind's savior (Dani) grows on you, but best of all, the new Terminator Rev-9, is a PROBLEM! Oh and...Arnold. Good to see him again. I tell ya..old feelings. Enjoy..
  • Terryfan11 January 2022
    Warning: Spoilers
    There should only be two Terminator movies The Terminator 1984 and Terminator 2 1991.

    Terminator: Dark Fate is suppose to be a "Direct Sequel" to the first Terminator movies but this one is nothing but a slap in the face to the fans and to movie fans.

    Once again another series becomes a victim of nonsense politics where they want to shove Feminism and PC down our throats.

    The series should be about humanity battle against the machines in order to survive not some PC trash because that really hurts the movie.

    It don't help the movie is poorly written. The first two were known for creative quotes and terrific plot but here it just feels like a skipping record as the story has no original whatsoever

    The acting in the movie is super awful it feels like Arnold was there to get a paycheck as he wasn't billed high it was Linda which prove my point. Not that Linda is a awful actress it seems that she also was collecting a paycheck.

    Terminator: Dark Fate should remind us that there is no fate than what we made for ourselves so avoid this movie.

    I give Terminator: Dark Fate an 1 out of 10.
  • Roma7324 February 2021
    Gave it a 10 to boost the numbers, because this one certainly beats other sequels after T2. Third best in my opinion. Not perfect (the Mexican girl could've been given more depth, to name something) but no other sequel was perfect either. Cheesy, corny, yeah, but so were the others. The acting was good, there was some nostalgia (Linda and Arnie back in) and a lot of action reminiscent of T1 and T2. I was surprised at all the hate reviews. Then I took a good look at what people were saying and I realized it's mostly the fact that 3 women have the lead. A lot of these hate reviews here are shockingly misogynistic and old fashioned. Grow up, boys.
  • Though I am a great fan of the Terminator franchise, I was very reluctant to see this movie for a while because of the fifth instalment. After a great start to the franchise The Terminator:T1 and T2: Judgement day, T3: raise of the machines turned into a dud followed by a somewhat promising T4: Salvation. T5: Genesis turned out to be a pathetic affair. So I had very low expectations when I started this sixth instalment, Terminator: Dark Fate aka T6.

    In about 30 minutes into the movie I found Terminator: Dark Fate extremely gripping and I N T E N S E with lots of surprises springing up regularly. T6 luckily cut the mistakes that T3, T4 and T5 did, that is cutting up the over complicated Cyber Dyne, Skynet, Resistance, HK Hunter killer, T800, T1000, Judgement day, Kyle Reese Mumbo Jumbo etc. This I believe has made Terminator: Dark Fate a very interesting and a pure action cinema to even new viewers. The movie is loaded with very "Cool" action sequences and springs a host of surprises, about every 20 minutes.

    Linda Hamilton's return to the franchise along with newcomers McKenzie Davis and Natalia Rayes adds up tremendous on screen boost to take on the new Terminator Rev9, which is a credible and refreshing upgrade. Awesome screenplay keeps T6 very refreshing and intense for almost throughout the movie. Excellent stunts & cinematography lights up things on screen. Excellent VFX and production design needs a special mention, So does the spectacular Background Score. The movie never lags in any way. In the end all the credit & appreciation should go to the director Tim Miller for T6.

    If over the years, one has seen the movies from Terminator franchise, Terminator: Dark Fate is an unmissable movie. I am sure Terminator fans the world over will surely enjoy this one. I thought after T5, the franchise was dead but "It is Back". A must watch for all action fans around the world and not just T fans.....
  • Warning: Spoilers
    It's almost as if Tim Miller watched T3, Salvation and Genisys, found every aspect fans hated and crammed them into one film. Just like salvation it moves the focus from John Connor. The hybrid man/machine returns. The aged Arnold returns, with the exact same excuse we had in Genisys.

    There's nothing original in this and the writing is woeful. The believability of T1 and T2 is long gone. Over exaggerated fight scenes. Mind numbingly boring, over convoluted cgi. And characters with no depth, warmth or connection to the audience.

    This is a cash grab. No other words for it.

    Fans want a well written story. Practical effects. Terminator should be dark, moody, intense. The T600s used to be slow, but unstoppable. This is just more cgi throwing each other through walls.

    The first 5 mins gave me hope. The de-aging, was spectacularly well done. It felt like watching 1991 Linda Hamilton. That, unfortunately, was the only decent thing about the film.

    Utter claptrap.

    Hasta la vista Terminator. I won't be back.
  • I guess what's killed these movies, is that good special effects are common enough now, that there's nothing special about them/no reason to see a movie for them.

    It made @$4m in Brazil. $1.5 Argentina. $4 Colombia. $7 Mexico. $50 China. $17 SK. $21 Japan. $13 SEA. $28 UK/Spain/France/Germany. I don't get why it was set in Mexico- doesn't seem like the right financial decision was made.

    I don't understand how the casting department has kept their jobs through this series. Seems like they'd benefit greatly from shifting $10m from special effects to casting bigger stars, or at least bringing people back consecutively. If they're going to have magical terminators, they may as well hand-wave away bringing back actors so that there's some thread tying these movies all together.

    The short-haired woman is a really bad actor. At least Arnold is a charismatically bad actor. The motel scene felt like watching a practice shot. I skipped past the scene talking about her survival.

    I wonder why they made it 2 hours long. Maybe the foreign market feel like long movies offer a better value. Felt like it'd never end. Just a diverse group of independent scenes stuck together with no backbone.

    I wonder why American companies don't just branch off some divisions to create movies solely for foreigners? Maybe the audiences will only watch them if they're "American".

    I think if I could go back in time I wouldn't watch it.
  • Ignore any scores under 5/10 because they are ridiculous! Also skip the comments by the many pre-teens, ageists and misogynists. Just see it for what it is: an action movie and a pretty decent one at that. From all the negative reviews I almost didn't watch this one and that would have been a loss for me. I enjoyed it.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    Strip away all of the expensive digital special effects razzmatazz and what you have here is a very familiar plot cobbled together from bits and bobs taken from the previous five Terminator movies, with a heavy dose of political correctness and feminism, this being 2019 and all. Sarah Connor is old, the bodyguard from the future is an augmented young woman, mankind's only hope is a teeny tiny girl from Mexico, and Arnie's T-800 has developed a conscience and settled down with a family (I kid you not).

    Don't bother trying to work out how this film fits into the whole Terminator timeline: they pretty much explain away most of the other movies to make it easier on the viewer. All you need to know is that another terminator has been sent from the future to kill Dani Ramos (Natalia Reyes), saviour of the human race, and lots of stuff gets shot at, blown up, and smashed into a gazillion pieces in the process. Nasty terminator (Gabriel Luna) is virtually indestructible, which means that there's even more carnage than ever, because in Hollywood's eyes, bigger is always better.

    Unfortunately, director Tim Miller really doesn't know when to pull hard on the reins, and allows the action to escalate to ridiculous levels. Hence, we have the risible sight of our feisty female trio falling from a burning plane in a Humvee, crashing onto a dam, plummeting over the edge, and being washed along in a flood of water whilst simultaneously being attacked by the rampaging Rev-9 robot. Not since Harrison Ford stumbled out of a lead-lined fridge have I had to suspend my disbelief quite as much.

    Reasonably enjoyable in a 'switch off your brain and bask in the chaos' kind of way, Dark Fate isn't quite as bad as Genisys (the pared down script at least makes it easy to follow), but even after 28 years and several attempts, they still haven't come close to T2 for sheer entertainment value.
  • If you are a fan of the first 2 Terminator movies , a fan of the characters Sara Conner , John Conner , and Arnold's first Terminator then don't waste your time and money on this piece of crap. This movie undoes and destroys the original Terminator movie characters with time twisting and ludicrous story gymnastics that obliterates the entire original Terminator that's all idiotic crap writing. I would never had imagined that a movie sequel could be this bad but it is. Listen to a spoiler review first , I wish I had, and you will be shocked as to how bad this movie is written .
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