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  • theredmare3 January 2021
    This is very very good. I just happened on it, and immediately realised this was going to be a lot nastier story than I usually like, but I haven't been able to turn it off and I've also watched the second episode and found it even better. This is a biography of the French serial killer Charles Sobhraj, who operated during the 60s and 70s on the Asian hippie trail, namely Bangkok, and the chasing of him by an idealistic young Dutch embassy attaché, amidst complete apathy, acceptance or downright corruption of all authorities, and against the express wishes of his vile, racist ambassador: the murdered victims were only "beatniks" and "scum". A good representation of the times, the ignorance, the sexism, the rivalries between countries, the casual racism, the colonialism etc. You quickly realise everybody is in on everything that's going on there, and the whole situation is rotten to the core.

    An international cast, a realistic atmosphere and a smothering suspense building bit by bit, as well as the casual horror of what was done to the poor victims. Still, the culprit is managing to be handsome and charming, as he must have been in real life. The script goes constantly back and forth between events, and one must concentrate a little to follow the story, and the characters who are proving to be more and more complex and real.

    This series is shaping to be quality viewing. Bear in mind it is unsettling, all the more for it having happened, but once you start watching you'll find impossible to look away. On the whole, excellent acting* in the "somebody real" line, and fabulous soundtrack of all the French hits of the day, Jacques Dutronc, Serge Gainsbourg, Charles Aznavour... there's an absolute attention to detail for everything, visual and audible.

    *and the majority of the actors are of the nationality they are representing, which is a change. (Notable exception is Marie-Andrée, who was from Québec, but whose French is atrocious. However if you don't speak French you'll just read the subtitles when she speaks French and she is convincing when she does speak English anyway.)

    Recommend.

    Edit: I should like to add a few points. First, the flashbacks. They are definitely not annoying, nor are they difficult to follow, unless you have the IQ of a mosquito. However it appears from other reviews that if you are used to being spoon-fed run of the mill American series you may get irritated. Be that as it may, the structure of the story as related serves several purposes and is very cleverly done. First, gradual character exposure. By the end of episode 2 we have a ludicrous amount of important characters, compared to fictional movies, and every single one of them is clearly defined, and I know who everyone is exactly, through their clever gradual introduction. (this reminds me a bit of the Gandalf tactic in the Hobbit books when introducing 12 dwarves to an irate Beorn, via an addictive progressive adventure story that he can't help wanting to know the end of) Second, the story we are shown sort of just precedes the latter discoveries by the young Dutch embassy man (captioned at present time). This rather neatly puts us in HIS shoes, chasing for a murderer, and not in the ones of the several point of views we're also given. Third, going back to the same scene later but with new information and viewing it in a different way. All without losing the rhythm and the flow of the story. It's all very clever and very very well done.

    Finally I'd like to analyse why I feel compelled to watch this when I don't do gangster and killer movies, because they are people I find nasty and uninteresting: the series doesn't glorify, or admire a killer, or gives him excuses, but essentially is an effective social critique of post colonial society at the time, while posing background reasons for such a behaviour and letting us understand it. Without excusing it. The film is much broader than "Charles Sobhraj". Even though it is, to all intents, only about Charles Sobhraj.
  • brianj-goodinson10 January 2021
    Excellent, gripping drama. Well acted throughout. The story would be unbelievable if it were not true! Some reviews have pointed out the frequent timeline jumping. I personally found that watching it as a "box set" seemed to lessen that feeling. A refreshing change to see a work of such high quality from BBC these days!
  • Superb acting from the leads. Phenomenal costume and set design, and a great score.

    You're skin crawls from the sheer creepiness of Charles Sohbraj the pure Sociopath.

    This is a tense and gripping drama and the time hopping device is used to great effect as it underlines a cat and mouse came that spans across 5 or 6 countries over 20 years plus. Other reviewers said this instilled confusion and detracted from the plot... but it doesn't.... It enhances it as it keeps things flowing and on edge.

    If you enjoy simple mindless and linear storytelling... watch Cobra Kai (which is still great).

    This was a quality series that grips from beginning to end.
  • A must watch (unless your kids are off backpacking round the world!!) Best thing I've watched for ages - watched all 8 over 2 days - couldn't believe what was happening - It was open mouth time ! How long does my review have to be ? I wish I hadn't started now. It's still saying it's too short. I'm not a professional you know. I've got other things to do today you know. Got there in the end .....
  • This is a must watch series, cannot fault it! Every episode left me wanting more. Brilliant story throughout.
  • The series is suspenseful, but what really irritated the hell out of me is van Knippenberg's accent when he speaks Dutch, there would've been several really good Dutch actors that could've pkayed his part. A big let down for my concern.
  • Good start to the show but I just do not understand why they would have a person playing a Dutchman (Billy Howle - Herman Knippenberg) that obviously does not understand or speak Dutch. It would have been better to not have him say anyhthing in "Dutch" as I have no clue what he is actually saying. I don't understand why the actual Dutch actors didn't comment on this? The first episode looks good though and I am looking forward to the rest of the season.
  • I really enjoyed the show. I wasn't too bothered by those constant time jumps while those seemed to have annoyed quite a lot of people. But those accents...Jenna Coleman speaking french especially. I'm french myself so this really annoyed me. Why didn't they just cast someone who actually speaks the language?! I like Jenna Coleman, but I think she's just not a great fit here. Otherwise great production.
  • A phenomenal account of a seriously dangerous and manipulative man and those closest to his actions. The constant jumping back and forth of the timeline is irritating until you get used to it. As the story unfolds, your relationship with the characters grows, and you're taken even more willingly on a journey unlike one you've been on with the BBC before
  • Warning: Spoilers
    The Serpent is okay but could have been a lot sharper.

    1st problem is Tahar Rahim. He plays Sobhraj in a very flat, deadpan, manner. But in real life Sobhraj had a charisma, a lure, a mystique and a deadliness all of which combined to draw young people into his lair. This is lacking in Rahim's portrayal.

    2nd problem is the timeline jumping. By far the most back and forward flashes I've ever encountered. I'm sure they thought this was clever but in fact it's simply sloppy scriptwriting. I get the point: trying to interweave the investigation but it has been done lazily and in a manner that, in trying to tell the investigative story alongside the killing spree, denudes the result of its dramatic tension.

    3rd problem are the Aunt Sally lampoon characterisations: from Knippenberg to the British embassy official, to the Thai police. There are too many lazily written cartoon characters and really poor dialogue. A good example is the tired old argument between the Knippenbergs and Paul Siemons in episode 3 and then the clunky couple's dialogue after this.

    4th problem is a tendency to glorify the killings. This is arguably less of an issue in that you have to deal with the evil Sobhraj committed but that's possibly overdone in places. It's pretty disrespectful to the families of the victims.

    5th problem is not entirely the production team's fault and it's that you can tell they had to cut short filming on location and then rushed post-production because the schedules were full of repeats. It's like one of Sobhraj's rough cut gems. Maybe that's appropriate.
  • Sleepin_Dragon2 January 2021
    This is a very energetic, fast paced drama. Visually it looks so good, the production values are excellent. A particularly good cast, once again I'm impressed with Jenna Coleman. It's one of those dramas that you need to concentrate hard on, as it is a little deep, and could be seen as confusing. After being starved of drama for obvious reasons, it was nice to start 2021 with something this good. You couldn't switch the BBC on without seeing a trailer for it, they certainly went to town to advertise it. Hard to fault. 8/10.
  • If you are Dutch and know Bangkok well, this a series you want to watch. The effort of Knippenberg against the directions of his superiors are most commendable and deserve all the praise they can get. The whole story however could do with at least two episodes less.

    In the old days in any movie everyone spoke English, e.g. In war movies with Germans. Gradually this has changed to the better and actors are chosen of the same nationality they depict, speaking their own language. This is where this series confuses. The actor for the Dutchman Knippenberg is not Dutch, although he speaks a few hard to understand lines of the language. It becomes bizarre when he converses in English with his countryman the ambassador. The French of the girlfriend (played by a Canadian actress) is totally insufficient and also strange when she and her French boyfriend speak mostly English together.

    Some technical issues also raise eyebrows. How likely is it that in 1976 you can dial directly from a public phone in a hotel lobby in Kathmandu to a number in Paris? In those years I have waited for hours in more developed countries for a connection. The cars with the right hand steering wheel in Paris show that attention for detail has slipped.

    And finally one of the most annoying things: the constant smoking. Every scene is started with lighting up a cigarette and almost no one is ever seen without one. It almost seems like the tobacco industry sponsored the series.
  • I truly don't understand that in the year 2021, you would not cast a Dutch actor to play the dutch part (Michiel Huisman for instance) or a Belgian actor to play the belgian part, etc etc.

    He didn't even pronounce his own name right, Knippenburggg. Only the ambassador ( a dutch actor) got it right.

    This is typical BBC anti-continental arrogance in my opinion.

    It felt like watching Allô Allô at some point.

    And you know: dutch people speak dutch amongst themselves, and so do the french. The dialogues between several people made no sense because of this.

    Also: a german/dutch couple would never converse in english, it would be either dutch or german. And because of the similarities in their native language they would be fully able to pronounce each other's names right.

    And: a Belgian would never, consistently call a dutch person a "cloggy". This is british slang for dutch people and i wonder if they would use it multiple times in single conversation addressing a dutch colleague, let a alone a fellow diplomat.

    And what about those crazy time jumps. We counted about 20 per episode, and the train station letters and according sound were quite unnecessary every other three minutes. It really didn't contribute to the story. In fact, it was highly distracting and even laughable at some point.

    Flashbacks and flashforwards are supposed to draw you in, not have you burst out in laughter because of the overkill. It creates a total disconnect with the characters arcs.

    Overall: the story was interesting but those incessant time jumps, the butchered dutch and English dialogue where it was supposed to be in either dutch or french made me long for the end.

    It could've ranked much higher if they had sorted this out. Come on bbc, you can do better!
  • I found this a great watch, the tooing and froing of the time line demands your attention, and in turn pulls you deeper into the story.

    But be warned... if you have never smoked or you have recently given up... you'll be reaching for cigarettes as most of the characters continually chain-smoke 😂
  • What a compelling series!! But I'll keep it real SIMPLE - it's excellent! The cinematography, directing, acting, story-telling - all excellent. One of the best crime shows I've watched in the last few years and despite what is a very disturbing set of events - the colourful visuals will leave you wanting to go to South East Asia.

    If I had to be a little critical of one thing is that I would have maybe gone into more character depth of this Charles Sobhraj - as I think they portrayed him well as a sociopath but they simply scratched the surface when it comes to understanding what made him the way he was. At the same time, he doesn't really deserve such an ending, an explanation for who he is. The mini-series is based on true events and one should keep in mind that this type of notoriety perhaps undermines the little justice the victims received. So that said, they probably made the right call and you should give the series a watch.
  • tarquin165 January 2021
    7/10
    OK
    The show is rife with over-acting amongst nearly every actor. Not sure if this is the director's fault.

    Some of the french accents are highly cringe. Why not just use actual french actors instead of english ones that appear to not even know the language.

    It's a good production though.

    Good show to watch if you don't mind very simple dialog and even simpler characters.
  • This was fantastic. Completely transported me to another time and place. So engaging-I felt the desperation of Dominique, the frustration of Herman, the evil of Charles and pure creepiness of Ajay. I liked the time hops as it built up the story effectively. A chronological timeline wouldn't have been as engaging. So hard to believe this was true. I could not stop watching. Highly recommend.
  • It's an intriguing show. Well made but it's just the jumping back and forth constantly spoils it. Yes it comes together but I can't help but feel it could have been made so much better if it hadn't have been made this way...I sort of almost gave up at ep 3 ..but stuck with it.
  • sanne-meijer4 April 2021
    Thrilling show. Really gets me in the feeling of the 70's.

    Only disappointing thing is 'knippenberg' speaking Dutch. Why not choose a Dutch actor for this role, or just skip the speaking bad Dutch part.
  • This is not a 10* show by any stretch of the imagination, so don't believe the stooges.

    The story is based on facts and this show depicts most of them accurately. I do recommend a watch as it is superbly filmed with great locations and a brilliant effort to recreate the 1970s, but there are some problems I had with the overall production.

    Firstly, this show did not portray Charles Sobhraj, the serial killer, accurately. In real life he was a charismatic, charming, and captivating, but in this, the odd blank stare into the distance wasn't enough to convince me he had any magnetism. I found his portrayal dull and boring. That, for a serial killer, is poor writing. It was just the facts of what he did and not much on how and why.

    Secondly, as others have mentioned, the constant jumping back and forth on the time line was annoying. It was meant to be a device to create excitement/dynamism, but it didn't work. It would have been much better in a linear format with time spent on CS establishing the relationships with his victims.

    That leads to my next problem with the show - a lack of dramatic tension. Only in episode 5 did I get excited about what might happen. No time was taken for the viewer to have any empathy with any of the characters/victims. Again, poor writing as a good drama should make you care.

    Watch this show for the brilliant production values, great cinematography, Jenna Coleman's performance, and to find out what really happened. It's definitely better than most of the rubbish on TV.
  • This eight part series tell of the hunt for serial killer Charles Sobhraj and his girlfriend Marie-Andrée Leclerc during the mid-seventies. The pair met on the 'Hippie Trail' and hade their home in Bangkok; here Sobhraj, along with associate Ajay, targets travellers. Robbing and murdering them for their possessions and just as importantly their passports. Nobody seems to care if a few long-haired hippies vanish until Dutch diplomat Herman Knippenberg learns of a missing Dutch couple. Against ambassadorial orders he investigates and finds they were murdered. The trail leads to Sobhraj but he has insufficient evidence. Few people want to help him but Belgian diplomat Siemons does and later two French tourists staying at Sobhraj's hotel also help... putting themselves in grave danger in the process.

    I hadn't heard of this case and don't usually watch 'true crime' stories but for some reason thought this might be good... it is. In many ways the story plays out like a fictional thriller but knowing it is based on facts make details that would seem unlikely in fiction acceptable. There are many flashbacks to key incidents but they don't get confusing. The story is tense from start to finish and as we know it is based on real events one really worries about the safety of characters. The cast does a fine job; Tahar Rahim is chilling as Sobhraj; Jenna Coleman is solid as Marie-Andrée, a woman who has difficulty accepting that the man she loves could be a killer (at least for a while) but knows he is a criminal; Billy Howle and Ellie Bamber impress as Herman and his wife Angela. There are also fine performances from Tim McInnerny as Siemons and Amesh Edireweera as Ajay. The locations are impressive and each is introduced in a way that gives us a taste of the era. Overall I'd certainly recommend this even if it isn't your preferred genre.
  • 'The Serpent' tells the story of Charles Sobhraj, who robbed and murdered his way through a host of young Western travellers in Asia in the 1970s. It's a chilling story, and also a fascinating one; but it might have been better as a four part series than a seven part one. Told mostly from the perspective of a Dutch diplomat who tried to bring him to justice, it suffers from a certain monotony; the setup is clear early on, and a lot of time passes without anything really changing. Even the ending lacks a major dramatic punch, given the way Sobrahj (as depicted) seems emotionally invulnerable, both to what others might do to him and also to what he does to others (that said, Tahir Rahm plays him very well). Some minor niggles are that the unfortunate hippies he preys on all seem just a little bit too good looking (and his girlfriend looks beautiful even when dying of cancer); and while people generally did smoke a lot in the 1970s, from watching this you'd think that everyone was on 60 a day. But the main limitiation of the programme is just that it's rather slow; erhaps had they told things more from the point of view of his girlfriend they could have found a stronger narrative arc.
  • Quick synopsis

    3 Months earlier 10 months earlier 2 years later 4 months earlier 1 year later 2 years earlier 8 months later, over and over, random time jumps

    Utterly confusing dross.

    I could not wait for this utter drivel to be over.
  • This a well-paced drama, and I binge watched the entire mini series in one day. I think the production is good quality. The main lead, the dutch diplomat, was a bit over-the-top at times but I like the casting overall.

    I will be honest, I don't know many details about the actual case, but it seems that the writers have done a fine job of capturing the feel of the 70s. This was a time when racism, colonialism, sexism, etc. Were still fairly common and casually accepted.

    I understand that the time flipping might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it worked for me because it kept me on my toes. I found the storytelling and the chase quite captivating, and I would definitely recommend this show.
  • This is well done and well acted. A grade A production. Its only flaw is the bouncing timeline. It is hard enough to pay attention with subtitles, let alone with the timeline going back and forth. Entertaining but NOT a relaxing watch. I'd advise you to learn French or take up speed reading because during fast exchanges of dialogue, those subtitles fly by fast.

    Half a point off for the bad wigs.
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