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  • "I Love You, Now Die - The Commonwealth vs. Michelle Carter" (2019 release; 135 min.) is a documentary about the suicide of an 18 yr. old boy who may or may not have been coached/encouraged/pressured by his 17 yr. old girlfriend to do so. As the documentary opens (with part 1 called "The Prosecution"), it is "July 12, 2014". Conrad and Michelle, who have met in person only 5 times over a 2 year span, are an "on-line couple", having sent thousands upon thousands of texts to each other. On that day, Conrad is contemplating suicide and Michelle is outright supportive, if not more so. Conrad dies from acute carbon monoxide poisoning. We then jump to today, as Conrad's dad, and them mom, reflect back to what happened in 2014... At that point we are 10 min. into the documentary.

    Couple of comments: this is the latest documentary from writer-producer-director Erin Lee Carr, who just earlier this year gave us the outstanding documentary "At the Heart of Gold: Inside the USA Gymnastics Scandal" and before than "Mommy Dead and Dearest". She is in my opinion one of today's leading documentarians. In "I Love You, Now Die", she examines the circumstances of what at first appears to be an "open and shut" case of a vulnerable and depressed young man being pressured and bullied by his equally vulnerable (and deranged?) young girlfriend into doing the unthinkable. The director uses the seemingly endless stream of texts between the two as the passport of this documentary. to chilling effect. To put it mildly, social anxiety among teenagers obsessed with their smart phone and other social media is a very serious problem. Equally striking is the unawareness of both of Conrad's parents (who are divorced at that time) that Conrad is in deep, deep (emotional) trouble. "He looked to be doing okay", comments his mom. But part 2 ("The Defense") is where things really get interesting, as we take a deeper dive into both Michelle's and Conrad's backgrounds and use of prescription psychiatric drugs (Prozac, Celexa, and more). All that said, there is of course also the legal side of things: do the actions and behavior of Michelle constitute a crime under Massachusetts law? The documentary does an excellent job looking at these complicated issues, and as someone comments, "there are no winners here". Indeed, the overall feeling is one of immense sadness for both individuals and their respective families...

    "I Love You, Now Die" premiered earlier this year at SXSW to immediate critical acclaim, and is now airing in HBO in two parts. The documentary is currently rated 100% certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, and there is a reason for that. It is easy to make out Michelle as the 'bad' person, and certainly there is some of that, but as this documentary amply demonstrates, there is a whole lot more to it than at first sight appears to be the case. If you love investigative documentaries, I would readily suggest you check this out, be it on VOD or eventually on DVD/Blu-ray, and draw your own conclusion.
  • Erin Lee Carr's two-part HBO documentary I Love You, Now Die: The Commonwealth v. Michelle Carter, takes as its subject the story of the 2014 case where a 17-year-old woman encouraged her suicidal 18-year-old boyfriend to kill himself, and was subsequently charged with involuntary manslaughter. Attempting to tell a more comprehensive story than the sensationalist narrative adopted by the media at the time, which was basically "evil devil woman secretly bullies vulnerable boyfriend to death so she can get sympathy", the series expands on some of the lesser known details of the case in an effort to understand the psychological underpinning of what happened. Looking at issues of technology, mental health, the ethicality of prescribing powerful SSRIs to teenagers, a reductionist media that pushes an easy-to-digest narrative based on familiar tropes and themes at the expense of the more multifaceted, complex, and uncomfortable reality, and, of course, whether one person can be held legally responsible for another's suicide, the show doesn't so much take a side as work to remind viewers that more than one side exists. And although there are some notable problems, it does a pretty decent job overall.

    Massachusetts; July 2014. 18-year-old Conrad Roy, III has been 'dating' 17-year-old Michelle Carter for around 18 months, although their relationship exists almost exclusively through text messages, with the odd phone call. Despite living only an hour's drive from one another, and both possessing cars, they have met only five times. Conrad suffers from depression and had previously tried to kill himself on four separate occasions, and shortly after they met, he told Michelle that he wanted to die and was doing research to find a method that would be 100% guaranteed to work. Both Conrad and Michelle are on SSRIs, drugs which can exacerbate suicidal ideation. For 18 months, Michelle steadfastly refused to endorse Conrad's desire to kill himself, continuously asserting he had much to live for and reminding him how much he was loved, but on July 2, she seems to begin to actively encourage him.

    On the evening of July 13, Conrad drove his truck to a Kmart parking lot, and hooked up a portable carbon monoxide generator. At 18:28, he called Michelle and they spoke for 43 minutes. At 19:12, she called him and they spoke for 47 minutes. Three minutes after the end of the last phone call, she called him again, then two minutes later, then another two minutes, and then a further 25 times over the next two hours, but all calls went to voicemail. Following Conrad's death, police discovered the tens of thousands of text messages sent between himself and Michelle, noting that in the last 48 hours of his life, she had asked him over 40 times some variation of "are you gonna do it now". The case ignited a media firestorm with Michelle painted as an evil narcissist void of emotions or empathy.

    As there is no law against encouraging suicide in Massachusetts, the DA made the controversial decision to prosecute the case as a homicide. In February 2015, a Grand Jury returned an indictment for involuntary manslaughter ("wanton and reckless conduct resulting in death"). The case hinged on the fact that Michelle had told a friend that she was on the phone to Conrad as he died, and at one point, he had gotten scared and got out of the truck, but she had told him to get back in. It didn't help her case that an hour after she already knew Conrad was dead, Michelle was texting his sister Camdyn asking if she knew where he was. It helped even less that two days prior to his death, she was texting friends and telling them Conrad had gone missing, whilst simultaneously texting Conrad himself, something the prosecution would later call a "dry-run" to see if she got the attention she was looking for. The case came to trial in 2017, with Michelle waving her right to a jury trial, instead leaving the decision up to Judge Lawrence Moniz. Whatever he decided would set a landmark legal precedent.

    According to journalist Jesse Barron, "the biggest mystery of this story is not why Michelle Carter did what she did, but what Michelle Carter thought she was doing", and this is a central point - Michelle's own understanding of her actions are at the centre of everything. Certainly, her actions were inhuman, immoral, and abhorrent, but did she intend them as such? Psychiatrist Dr. Peter Breggin argues that Michelle became overwhelmed by the caretaker role Conrad had assigned to her and pinpoints July 2, the day when she began to encourage him to kill himself, as the point at which she became "involuntarily intoxicated"; a result of her being on Prozac. However, in an example of the show's balance, we immediately cut to another psychiatrist pointing out that there's no agreement in psychiatry that involuntary intoxication as a medical diagnosis is even real.

    The show makes a solid argument that, in this case, Occam's razor does not apply; the simplest explanation for Conrad's death - that Michelle manipulated him into committing suicide so she could elicit sympathy from those around her - is not necessarily the most likely explanation. This is not simply a case of hideous sociopathy; it's far more psychologically complex, and Carr does a fine job of peeling back the layers to illustrate this complexity, restoring context to much of the information that the media presented in a streamlined fashion to advance the "devil woman" narrative. Such context does not, in any way, excuse what Michelle said or how she acted, nor does the show suggest as much. But it does go some way to explaining her psychology; in a case where context has been ignored, yet context is everything, the show attempts to provide the viewer with that context, revealing Michelle's own deeply disturbed psyche and psychological trauma.

    However, there are some problems. Take Breggin's centrality. Should a psychiatrist who says something like, "she's clearly out of her mind and so is he" really have such a prominent role in a show of this nature? There's also no mention of the fact that he's against psychiatric drugs in general, nor is there anything about how, in 1987, after appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show and telling psychiatric patients not to take their medication, he was brought before a disciplinary board.

    Aesthetically, although the replication of the text messages as on-screen text without narration was a wise decision, there are also some questionable aesthetic choices. The use of a sentimental piece of piano music when discussing how Michelle had no real friends is manipulative, and the chronology of events is a little confusing, jumping around a lot between the suicide in 2014 and the trial in 2017. There are also a couple of examples of information being introduced which seems to go nowhere. The best example is a physical fight between Conrad and his father, which Carr makes no effort to tie back to events concerning Michelle.

    The biggest problem, however, is that neither Michelle nor any of her family participated in the film. Given how concerned Carr is with understanding what was going on in Michelle's head, this is a considerable problem. Several of Conrad's family appear, and the cumulative effect is to convey just how crippling his mental health issues were. In terms of Michelle, however, the only person who speaks to her mindset is Breggin. Along the same lines, Conrad's background and family life are sketched pretty thoroughly, but Michelle's is left completely blank - we learn absolutely nothing about her childhood or parents, who are never even mentioned. This is a significant misstep on Carr's part, and the lack of background contextualisation renders Michelle as something of an impenetrable question mark, which works against the show's attempts to elucidate her mindset and motivation.

    Nevertheless, I Love You, Now Die: The Commonwealth v. Michelle Carter is an informative engagement with a case of huge complexity and importance. Challenging the prevailing media depiction of Michelle, Carr sets out to remind the viewer that things are more complicated than they may have been led to believe. Never advocating for Michelle's complete innocence nor endorsing the devil woman persona, Carr stays fairly balanced throughout. She acknowledges that Michelle's actions and words were indefensible and inhuman, but so too does she argue sociopathy may not have been the primary cause. The central question of the case is whether Conrad would have killed himself had Michelle not encouraged him to do so. The easy answer is "no, he wouldn't". Carr, however, suggests that that question may be unanswerable. What happened is clear. But Carr is attempting to remind us that why it happened is a much more complex question.
  • This is a documentary that shows the divide before and after the introduction of cell phones and social media, and the lack of laws that are in place. Throughout the documentary one is left with the question - is it a crime? Is it a crime in the eyes of the law?

    We are led through one side, then the other, and I feel as uncertain as I did at the beginning about what really happened. Because things that I interpret to be jokes, or how young people speak, are taken 100% literally by the lawyers and judge. It's a very interesting case to study more if you are interested in law or true crime.
  • This documentary is in two parts. After watching the first part I was convinced that this young girl was desperately trying to get attention from her peers and going about it through the death of her boyfriend. After watching the second part I am in tears and all I want to do is make sure that my children know that they are not alone and that they are loved. Things are not black and white. There are many nuances to every situation and this documentary did an incredible job in dissecting what is a very complex situation. This was a very unfortunate event, and my heart goes out to both sides. We, as parents, need to take a more active role in our children's lives. It is very difficult to be a teenager in the world today. Thank you for this documentary, you did an excellent job.
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    Much like other HBO documentaries the viewer starts off by having one opinion and by the end you're persuaded to see a different side. I was one of those people that thought Michelle was just a evil girl with a cold heart. But when the entire story is revealed and the texts (and not just those in the weeks leading up to Conrads suicide) are explained in greater context, I started to feel genuine sympathy for her. Is she culpable, yes. But I think she is mentally ill, lonely and created an entire world around her not based on reality. She needs help, not jail.
  • educallejero13 November 2019
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    With the first part of this two parts documentary, I was "furious". "Why they let the family of the victim have all the spotlight? Of course they would blame the other and make themselves look fine".

    But I kept watching and the nuance came with the second part, which was exactly the opposite of the first, showing the other side of the story.

    For some reason they decided to split the story in two parts instead of telling the whole thing in a more traditional style. And I was pleased at how conflicted I ended up in the whole thing.

    Is she to blame? Really? Probably. But is it murder? Maybe. That's how conflicted I am. I just... don't know.

    Was she the one beating him up, like his father? Or ignoring him (in the boys' mind) like his mother and family? Was she the one causing the pain and reason for him to want to kill himself every other month?

    I don't know. I don't know. I'm 50/50 too.
  • It's rare that a true crime documentary shows both sides of the argument without bias and I think this one finally does. It's so incredibly shocking and interesting to watch. You get a lot more insight into the crime than what was portrayed in the media, and we hear from the family of the victim. Whatever your personal belief on this is (I'm on the 'guilty' side) it will still have you thinking both ways.
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    This story made me so angry.

    Yes... Michelle wanted to make sure Conrad died so she could assume the role of "grieving girlfriend." Yes, Conrad had social anxiety and was extremely depressed.

    Yes, Conrad ultimately wanted to die.

    Yes, Michelle made sure she did what she could to make sure he did not back out of his suicide.

    Yes, Michelle was desperately lonely and attention-seeking.

    Yes, Conrad was abused, depressed, socially awkward and suicidal.

    BUT... let's take away ALL of the above. Also, let's take away the media's over-dramatic portrayal of both sides of the situation.

    The real bottom line, in my humble opinion, is much more horrific than anything mentioned above.

    My take on this sad story is this: Michelle should definitely be put away for life. Any person who could sit and listen to someone start to die, talk them into finishing when they get scared... and again listen to them until they are dead WITHOUT SENDING SOMEONE TO HELP OR SAVE THEM.... are totally sick. Michelle was capable of hearing someone she supposedly "loved" die and not call anyone to stop him. She knew where he was, what he was doing and yet did nothing. Nothing but make sure that he finished dying by coaxing him on until he was dead.

    It takes a real kind of evil to make sure someone dies by belittling and berating them until the end.

    When you know someone is in trouble and you do NOTHING to help, you are guilty.
  • Warning: Spoilers
    This documentary is a gem that's more about mental health, isolation, violence and teenagers' relations to technology than about a « murder » case. You'll formulate your own opinion based on both sides of the story.

    (Here comes the spoiler) But, to me, to real bottom line is that this girl was convicted based only on one thing: the idea that she told him to go back in the truck. Except she never texted that, she only reported saying it. If they question her credibility, how come they don't question her credibility when it comes to what was said on this most troubling last phone call?

    Also, kind of makes you wonder if every horrible person that writes to another one to go « kill themselves » everyday on social media should go to prison...

    Much to think about...
  • This is yet another example of why you should never make up your mind until you see all the evidence, but we live in a world where we tend to want quick answers and judgments. Like The First 48 crime reality show, where you tend to jump to conclusions quickly, this is another example of why you should not.

    It is quite compelling and will leave you wit mixed feelings about the whole case and verdict. Things are always much more complicated (in most cases) that they first appear.

    Teenagers are complicated and play games and sometimes can't tell fantasy from reality. We all go through it.

    Definitely watch this.
  • In a world dominated by one-sided media, it's refreshing to see a show that covers multiple points of view and lets the viewer draw their own conclusions.
  • room10212 October 2019
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    In 2014, 17-year old Michelle Carter persuaded 18-year old Conrad Roy to commit suicide. He died in his pickup truck from carbon monoxide poisoning.

    Despite getting out of the truck and trying to abandon his suicide attempt, she encouraged him to take his own life and made him promise to go through with it.

    In 2017 She was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 2.5 years in prison for manslaughter.

    During the trial her text messages to him were presented. She texted him for hours until he went through with it.

    The documentary is very detailed and revealed more stuff I wasn't aware of.

    It's amazing how manipulative she was and how she prepared everything before and after his death.

    Perhaps the most striking thing is how she sat with sealed face throughout the entire case and the first time she showed any emotion was when she realized she was found guily and felt sorry for herself. Too bad her sentence was so easy.

    6.5/10 Highly recommended
  • When I first heard of this story, as it was happening, I thought Michelle Carter was a monster. I can no longer stand by that opinion.

    This documentary exposes the dangers of mental health of young adults growing up in a world of media and technology that has never existed before. I think it is vital that every single person watches this. Whether a parent, a friend, a teacher, a family member.

    This story is the most tragically heartbreaking story I have ever heard.

    Erin Lee Carr did yet again, another amazing job.
  • This case has always fascinated me. This documentary goes into a lot of depth about things that weren't initially touched upon in the news. It really made me think and I'm still conflicted about this case. A great documentary nonetheless showing both sides of the story and letting the audience decide their own opinions.
  • Very tragic case, I do not think Conrad would have been still here today enjoying life with his family if it wasn't for Michelle as is suggested by the closing few minutes, some people are wired differently , he was a troubled teen and it is unfortunate that he wouldn't listen to his family and seek good counselling. he sounded obsessed with dying yet unable to get the right help at the right time. The documentary paints both stories so I dont think its biased, I think its more sensitive considering the subject matter and the vulnerability of both the victim and the accused
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    Interesting doc from a legal perspective. She was definitely guilty and the judge had to convict her to set precedence for future cases like this. She should have received more jail time.

    A positive - the family has since pushed to write new law, Conrad's Law, that will make convicting someone who has encouraged/coerced another to take there own life up to 5 years in prison (probably on top of manslaughter charges or other charges depending on the case). The doc doesn't touch on this at all, maybe it all happened after.
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    His dad acts like no big deal. No wonder Conrad had problems. His father & fathers gff were just as responsible. They are horrible.
  • I really liked this documentary and it shows both sides of the case. It's surprising and understandable everything that happened and was said.
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    Can't believe she was found guilty. He wanted to do it, he had attempted suicide before even meeting her. He never called 911 to report harassment and never made an attempt to stop her from talking to him about doing it.

    He had it planned out, he set it up, he started it, he went along with it, and then, after he got into his truck willingly by HIMSELF, decided to get out. He knows he's not in fear of his life because he doesnt call for help, he doesnt call police or call for an ambulance or anything, he calls Michelle because thats what HE WANTED to do. She just went along with it like all the other times he talked about suicide.

    Decent documentary, the defense was pretty terrible and it cost them the case.

    No way should texts agreeing with someone wanting to do something be allowed to be turned around and say the text recipient is responsible for the actions of the text sender.

    She was never physically there, never physically aided in anything he did, never forced him to do anything he didnt want to do, and never assisted him in anyway.

    No way she shouldve been found guilty. Funny how HIS decision to get out of the car and call Michelle.

    Still, there is no evidence she ever told him to get back into the truck. None whatsoever.

    So be careful next time you joke about suicide, it might come back and cause you to get in trouble for it, even if you never physically did anything and never assisted in the action itself.
  • A good documentary is hard to pull off, especially one focused on a case like this that is both recent and still very contentious. How do you remain neutral in a case like this? How do you avoid either sliding to one side, where you depict Michelle Carter as a monster in a woman's form, a manipulator who wanted nothing more than fame, or the other, where she remains purely innocent of her own actions behind a wall of mental instability and undiagnosed issues? How do you avoid dramatizing it? (like the absolutely terrible Hulu show they just made?)

    I Love You, Now Die, I feel, splits that line perfectly. Part 1 goes over the Prosecutions main arguments. Michelle Carter did encourage him constantly in Conrad's last few days and hours to do the task. She was aware of his mental instabilities and desperate for attention. She was someone who wanted people to talk to her and find her interesting. She wanted the attention of her sympathy, and her lies to her friends about him being missing is genuinely chilling. She knew he was dead by that point.

    Where it gets interesting is with Part 2, focusing on the defense. Conrad Roy III was not someone with a pristine record. He had his own battles with mental problems, depression and anxiety, attempts at suicide, and he often piled all of his biggest concerns onto her, since he didn't trust his own very abusive family. Michelle Carter had genuine mental disorders, wanting to paint their romance as something out of a play, out of a movie, and in her deluded state she might have genuinely believed she was helping him get rid of the pain. I don't doubt that she did care for him, but that she was incapable of healthily showcasing that love.

    I only knock a star because it feels like they kinda scramble at the end to touch on other things, and the good pace of the rest of the documentary kinda slips up, but overall (and no matter how you feel on the verdict), I think this is a great documentary, especially balanced and very informative.
  • She coerced him to do it and should have called the police for help or his mother if she had her number. The girls in her class were also sick and bulling her but she went too far. Its like charles manson did not pull the trigger on the gun but convinced others it was there only choice. Where are his friends,was he isolated by society just like her. Maybe this is not an isolated case and maybe America and world needs to address these problems in schools. Its why school shootings have happened by people being isolated by society. Maybe social media could design away to find these people and help get them help before this happens again. After watching second part they seem to talk about his dad being violent towards him but, i don't think this was the reason he took his life. They also talk about a sick story from Glee after actor dies he is killed in soap story. In the story from Glee the girl friend of a dead football player gets comforted by her friends on the news of his death and this actress was what she wanted to be. It was like she copied the T.v series. However her conviction will never last, one day she will get out and probably sell a book about her story. The problem with her conviction is that they just don't have a recording of her talking him back in to the car. They got this information from one of her friends and this just might not be true. She would lie all the time just to make herself seem big, she had a sick sense of humour and so did her boyfriend who would send her daily text about killing himself. They seemed like to people who just never fitted in and had a common interest in glee and sick online jokes.
  • The documentary is an emotional jogger. It would've been much more intense if the studio could've gotten Alice to take the interview.
  • strike-19956 October 2019
    By the books and effective. I don't what else I can say really.
  • aninacooter24 July 2020
    If you think this shows both sides of the case, this only interviews her defense lawyers, special council or specialists (hired by her defense), and one biased reporter that focuses on what he perceives as the public's negligence of what it was like to be a teenager. Speaking as someone who's not that far out of my teen years, and as someone who has battled mental health for the last decade-- Michelle Carter aided and abetted a suicide. Unless you are so unwell that you do not understand the severity of your actions and words, which cannot be conveniently only applied to a 2 year "incident" when it is beneficial to her case yet be of normal cognitive apptitute in all other circumstances you are subject to the penalty of law. There is clear acknowledgement of her wrongdoing, and that should have been enough to hold her accountable. As if the verdict wasnt enough, this documentary sent the message loud and clear to those severely depressed and vulnerable teenagers/people out there who now feel as if it is their fault. And nobody else can help. And nobody cares. So...good job on this one. Villainize the victim and victimize th villain...
  • I was one of those who said she should have gotten the maximum penalty possible. but after hearing both sides of the story I totally changed my mind. It was absolutely ridicules convicting someone like that. I hope she can get her life on track after all this. P.S you MUST watch the 2nd part. Peace!
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