rafisher1
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I walked into the Valley Mission in August 1976, took the test, and signed up for the Communications course, followed by a fundamentals course. About three weeks in I realized there was a difference between the technology of Scientology and the culture. I was working to grow my business, so my interest was on how to communicate better and how to deal with people better.
One of the cultural aspects was this consideration that Scientologists were better people than the WOGS - a slang derogatory term for non-Scientologists. My clients were world class session musicians who worked on scoring movies and television shows. How could they be WOGS and be world class at what they do? That created distance between me and the culture. However, I was learning and getting better, so I stayed with it. I still use today much of what I learned in Scientology.
What got me about the movie was the Prison of Belief thing. I was having trouble one day while studying something and the course supervisor came to assist. After some discussion, he told me to never accept what was written, but to study it and work with it to understand it to get to the conceptual understanding of what the words were attempting to convey. I also ran across a piece by LRH on Personal Integrity that said: "Nothing in Scientology is true for you unless you have observed it and it is true according to your observation." LRH also said "All I am trying to do is get you to look." These were extremely valuable lessons that kept me from being influenced by the cult of Scientology and to remove myself from the cult of Christianity and the cults of conservatism and liberalism. I am not in a tribe. I am just me.
One of the cultural aspects was this consideration that Scientologists were better people than the WOGS - a slang derogatory term for non-Scientologists. My clients were world class session musicians who worked on scoring movies and television shows. How could they be WOGS and be world class at what they do? That created distance between me and the culture. However, I was learning and getting better, so I stayed with it. I still use today much of what I learned in Scientology.
What got me about the movie was the Prison of Belief thing. I was having trouble one day while studying something and the course supervisor came to assist. After some discussion, he told me to never accept what was written, but to study it and work with it to understand it to get to the conceptual understanding of what the words were attempting to convey. I also ran across a piece by LRH on Personal Integrity that said: "Nothing in Scientology is true for you unless you have observed it and it is true according to your observation." LRH also said "All I am trying to do is get you to look." These were extremely valuable lessons that kept me from being influenced by the cult of Scientology and to remove myself from the cult of Christianity and the cults of conservatism and liberalism. I am not in a tribe. I am just me.
I am watching season 14 and this being a period piece, they would not be saying the completely ignorant "try and..."
I see this horrible garbage in way to much dialogue. The writers need to be horse whipped.
From Benjamin Dreyer, Chief Copyeditor at Random House Publishing.
"If you try and do something, someone will immediately tell you to try to do it, so you might as well just try to do it so no one will yell at you." Dreyer, Benjamin. Dreyer's English (p. 164). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
If you stop to think about it, how does "try and" make any logical sense?
From Grammar Girl - Try to Versus Try and "Avoid 'try and' in formal writing. If you use 'and', as in -- I am going to try and call Grammar Girl -- you are separating trying and calling. You are describing two things: trying and calling. When you use 'try to' -- as in I am going to try to call Grammar Girl -- you are using the preposition 'to' to link the trying to the calling." Another option that works in some cases is to skip try to -- I am going to call Grammar Girl.
I see this horrible garbage in way to much dialogue. The writers need to be horse whipped.
From Benjamin Dreyer, Chief Copyeditor at Random House Publishing.
"If you try and do something, someone will immediately tell you to try to do it, so you might as well just try to do it so no one will yell at you." Dreyer, Benjamin. Dreyer's English (p. 164). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
If you stop to think about it, how does "try and" make any logical sense?
From Grammar Girl - Try to Versus Try and "Avoid 'try and' in formal writing. If you use 'and', as in -- I am going to try and call Grammar Girl -- you are separating trying and calling. You are describing two things: trying and calling. When you use 'try to' -- as in I am going to try to call Grammar Girl -- you are using the preposition 'to' to link the trying to the calling." Another option that works in some cases is to skip try to -- I am going to call Grammar Girl.
Too much of the dialogue is lame and/or unnecessary.
"You want to know what is icky? Shooting an innocent man in cold blood." Oh please, how many times has this group experienced that? And this is why they are bringing in the Wolf?
"I'll work with anyone who can stop that from happening again." Really? They are going to stop all innocent people from getting killed in cold blood?
"A driverless truck? I mean, these guys are into some next-level stuff." Lame.
"I just want you to try and watch him." Try and... still? When oh when will the ignorance stop!
From Grammar Girl - Try to Versus Try and "If you use 'and', as in -- I am going to try and call Grammar Girl -- you are separating trying and calling. You are describing two things: trying and calling. When you use 'try to' -- as in I am going to try to call Grammar Girl -- you are using the preposition 'to' to link the trying to the calling."
Another option that works in some cases is to skip try to -- I am going to call Grammar Girl.
From Benjamin Dreyer, Chief Copyeditor at Random House Publishing.
"If you try and do something, someone will immediately tell you to try to do it, so you might as well just try to do it so no one will yell at you." Dreyer, Benjamin. Dreyer's English (p. 164). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
As professional writers, we should work to make the language better.
"You want to know what is icky? Shooting an innocent man in cold blood." Oh please, how many times has this group experienced that? And this is why they are bringing in the Wolf?
"I'll work with anyone who can stop that from happening again." Really? They are going to stop all innocent people from getting killed in cold blood?
"A driverless truck? I mean, these guys are into some next-level stuff." Lame.
"I just want you to try and watch him." Try and... still? When oh when will the ignorance stop!
From Grammar Girl - Try to Versus Try and "If you use 'and', as in -- I am going to try and call Grammar Girl -- you are separating trying and calling. You are describing two things: trying and calling. When you use 'try to' -- as in I am going to try to call Grammar Girl -- you are using the preposition 'to' to link the trying to the calling."
Another option that works in some cases is to skip try to -- I am going to call Grammar Girl.
From Benjamin Dreyer, Chief Copyeditor at Random House Publishing.
"If you try and do something, someone will immediately tell you to try to do it, so you might as well just try to do it so no one will yell at you." Dreyer, Benjamin. Dreyer's English (p. 164). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
As professional writers, we should work to make the language better.