Gritty realism?!?!?!?! Uh...I do not know what show KathyandPaul were watching, but Miami Vice and gritty realism do not, and should never be, put in the same sentence together. Look, I love Miami Vice, it was the greatest TV show of the 80's. But realistic? No way, not in the mid 80's or any other decade. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being known for style versus substance. Hill St. Blues had plenty of substance but which is the seminal show? The style and substance that Vice is known for has transformed TV. CSI, Without a Trace, Cold Case Files, all of these shows, while not carbon copies of Vice, have been drastically influenced by Vice, as every cop show has since then. Awesome show, love it, it should be praised as the modern day standard bearer like Dragned was to the 50's (or whenever), but such accolades as realistic need not to be applied, and such criticisms as MTV cops to all style are not really criticisms at all.