Love that Joker? If so, you've come to the right place, folks, as this week's Empire Podcast sees Chris Hewitt, our very own Clown Prince of Crime, dig deep into Joker: Folie À Deux (and pronounce the title roughly ten different ways) with its star, Joaquin Phoenix [18:50 - 41:01 approx]. And then, doubling down on the Joker chat we talk to the music-driven movie's director, Todd Phillips, about taking big swings with his DC supervillain sequel [1:02:14 - 1:23:07 approx].

With Helen O'Hara having made herself scarce so she can watch the original Joker (her favourite film of all time) about a dozen times in preparation for the sequel, Chris is joined in the podbooth by his number one guy, Bo — sorry, James Dyer — and number two guy (steady now!), Alex Godfrey, for another fun episode. Together, the intrepid pod squad try in earnest to discuss terrible films made by great directors, only to get hung up...