Updated: Kamala Harris sat down with radio host Charlamagne tha God for a wide-ranging town hall aimed in particular at reaching Black male voters, amid some polls that suggest Donald Trump has made inroads with what traditionally has been a solid part of the Democratic coalition.

The last three weeks of the campaign look to be a search for votes via non-traditional outlets, which is what made Harris’ appearance a bit unique. Charlamagne has been a critic of President Joe Biden on his show The Breakfast Club but has been praiseworthy of Harris since she started her campaign, though he urged her to do more interviews.

“Folks say you come off as very scripted,” he said to Harris at the outset. “They say you like to stick to your talking points. Some media says you have –“

“That would be called discipline,” Harris interrupted.

He noted that Saturday Night Live has parodied her for it.