Years before Gypsy-Rose Blanchard and Ken Urker welcomed their first child together, they were once engaged and planning a future together. However, Urker ended the relationship in 2019 while Blanchard was serving time in prison for her involvement in her mother Clauddine “Dee Dee” Blanchard’s murder. Now that the two are back together, Urker is opening up about why he previously pulled the plug on the relationship. “Well, I think one of the biggest things was outside opinion and influence,” he told People. “I had listened to a podcast from Dr. Phil, and I had a lot of people in my ear just telling me that the best thing I can do for her is to give her some time to build a self-identity that she’s never been able to build before, and even while she’s in prison.” He said Dr. Phil’s opinion was “especially” influential in his decision.