Spoiler Alert: The following interview contains spoilers about tonight’s Season 2 finale of Disney+’s Andor.

Star Wars fans can be a finicky bunch, but Tony Gilroy has been fearless, much like the series creator George Lucas, in delivering to them. His Andor is altogether jawdropping in production design, overly layered in its rebel spies and architects’ motivations to unite as one against the Empire and unabashed to get down into the nitty gritty details. Forget about lightsaber fights, at one point during Season 2 there’s a discussion about interest rates in the galaxy. Gilroy started the season on an intentionally fiery note with Diego Luna’s future rebel leader Cassian Andor crashing around in a Tie-Fighter. It was his response to fans saying that Andor Season 1 began to slow. However, as the series ends, Gilroy has opted to end Cassian’s segue into Rogue One with an ease more than a bang.