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  • This film isn't exactly about the most exciting topic, china from Limoges, France, though it turned out to be a dandy film. It's a very lengthy film (almost 3 hours) that takes a very leisurely stroll through the adult life of a husband and wife--chronicling the husband's assumption of control of a family business and the ensuing ups and downs of this business. Once again, I know this doesn't sound very good to watch, but it is--particularly if you don't mind a long movie. I especially liked the way the characters changed throughout the film and the message the film gives that you cannot lose sight of your loved ones on your way to fortune.

    About the only negative I can think of in the movie is the inconsistency of the makeup. While the two main characters age well throughout the film and definitely appear quite old when the film concludes, for some odd reason Isabelle Huppert looks pretty much the same throughout (even though at least 25 years had passed from when you first saw her until you last saw her in the movie), as did one other minor character. Oh well, it's certainly not enough to damage the movie significantly--just an odd little flaw.
  • The film was sensitive, but disappointing.

    It was over-extended and in spite of the elements to a period flick being present -- set in a small village, a devoutly Protestant porcelain empire in Limoges, the Swiss Alps, and World War I -- it lacked the period movie breadth like how the Italian's would do it.

    Not even the beauty of Béart nor the shaky camera technique used throughout the movie could hold our attention for such a long time.

    Oh well, this was Olivier Assayas' first period film, a departure from his contemporary works.

    That's a valid excuse for the film, I guess.
  • dromasca15 December 2022
    Warning: Spoilers
    The presence of Emmanuelle Béart and of Isabelle Huppert in the credits and the fact that 'Les destinées sentimentales' is directed by Olivier Assayas were enough to convince me to see this film, despite its daunting three-hour length. Made in 2000, the film is an exception in Assayas' film career and a production quite atypical of the French film school in general. It is a period film, an almost Dickensian adaptation of the novel by a French writer, Jacques Chardonne, a controversial personality because of his collaborationist positions adopted duringWWII. My decision to watch the film paid off, the solid narrative, the fine acting and many beautiful cinematographic moments made the viewing an enjoyable and interesting experience despite its length.

    The story takes place between the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 1930s. Reading Chardonne's biography I learned that the two families that the heroes of the book belong to are a fictional transposition of the branches of the writer's family, manufacturers of cognac and porcelain from the Limoges region, raised in the Protestant faith which was and is a minority in France. Jean Barnery, the main hero, a pastor in a rural community, disowns his first wife, whom he suspects of infidelity, only to fall himself in love with the young and beautiful Pauline, who has returned from her studies in England. Out of love for her, he renounces his life as a priest, remarries and leaves in exile to Switzerland, leading a simple life with Pauline and treating the tuberculosis that had almost killed him. Upon the death of his father, he is called to take over the management of the porcelain factory, an aging enterprise with a tradition of quality, but in great need of modernization and adaptation to the production norms and labor relations of the 20th century. His whole life reflects the dilemmas between love and duty, between passion and the moral and social principles assimilated through education and tradition. The world around Jean and Pauline evolves and changes radically: the capitalist economy with the competition and the socialist influence in the factories, the war, the great economic crisis. What is left in the end?

    Most movies that are three hours long tried my patience and in the end I found them too long. That didn't happen with 'Les destinées sentimentales', even though it's not a thriller or a sci-fi film that would keep me nailed to my seat through thrilling or dynamic action, on the contrary, it's a drama that builds patiently, at its own pace. The historical topic is of course one of the reasons, including the Protestant perspective on a fascinating period of French history, a perspective about which I know very little. The interpretation of the actors also plays an important role. Emmanuelle Béart is simply formidable - beautiful, sensitive, in devoted love. It's one of her best roles, and I can't even fault the director for choosing not to age her too much with make-up at the end of the nearly 40 years the story spans. For Charles Berling - an understated and solid actor - it is the opportunity to play an exceptional leading role, and this is for him probably also a career peak. Isabelle Huppert is too little present, the role of the first wife has too few lines and screen time, and I can only regret it. The first wife's fidelity in her youth remains shrouded in mystery, as does her attachment to Jean thereafter. I must mention the name of the cinematographer Eric Gautier, who together with Olivier Assayas creates an absolutely formidable visual approach, in which the camera has no rest, following the words, the heroes and their experiences. Some viewers will read into the story a somewhat too tolerant approach to the hero's harsh capitalism, but this is more about the way the writer chose to portray his hero.

    'Les destinées sentimentales' includes a ballroom scene which seems to be a homage paid by the director to Visconti and his film 'The Leopard' - one of the masterpieces of the period cinema. Olivier Assayas seems to have told is - 'this is the model from which we started, but we ended up somewhere else entirely in this cinematic genre'. His bold attempt is largely successful.
  • This exquisite three hour film, set in France, begins at 1900 and ends around 1930, covering in the way three decades in the life of an idealistic man, Jean Barnery, who, although began as an protestant priest, ended up becoming an industrialist in his family porcelain factory. Through the life of a complex character, a full web of compromises, illusions, deceptions, tragedies, and mistakes emerges, capturing accurately the conflictual transformations of the era as a relation to the hero's personal journey. Despite its novelistic structure that sometimes diminishes its dramatic power through big time lapses, the film manages to retain its own life and conviction through careful development of its main ideas that pervade the whole story: The unavoidable compromises, the vicissitudes of life, the difficulty in applying your ideals, the emotional fulfillment and the problems of commitment, the futility of things. Easy answers are not provided, sometimes questions are more important. Exquisitely directed by the talented Olivier Assayas, and wonderfully performed (Emanuelle Beart and Charles Berling give subtle and nuanced performances, capturing perfectly the transitions in their characters' emotional state) the film, contrary to other period pieces, never lags despite the length. A must see for people interested in a serious piece of filmmaking.
  • I just saw this picture and it gave me the impression of Assayas trying to give us a symbolic message on globalization, French versus American markets, and at the end he delivers a movie about the film industry itself.As they say, do it for the French market!

    Cinematography is at its best, rhythm of images goes perfectly along character´s feelings at the moment.

    Beautiful ball sequence and very good explanation on ceramic and china industry at beginning of 20th century, breath taking swiss sceneries.

    I WW sequence is also very well done.

    Emmanuelle Beart and Isabelle Huppert are splendorous,La Huppert appears less but is much more intense.

    Also got the impression that novel had much more to offer than the 3 hours film version, but this is film, anyway, and script is script.

    Beginning and ending with a death scene, love is the only worthy thing in life.
  • runamokprods6 November 2016
    The story of a man (a very good performance by Charles Berling) over a 30 year period, starting at the beginning of the 20th century. It explores what matters to him -- the women in his life, his morality, and later his porcelain factory.

    It poses some important questions; how does one balance morality, passion and being an artist? And when is the pursuit of perfection a vice or a virtue?

    There are flaws; some interesting plot lines are simply dropped, and other less interesting ones get more time than they need. Isabelle Huppert, while always good is surprisingly a bit one-note, and Emmanuelle Beart can't really pull off being an old lady.

    But this ultimately felt like more than the sum of its parts. By the end I felt moved and thoughtful, and it's 3 hour length, while deliberate, was never boring.

    Critics were very divided - some coldly dismissed it as dull and seemed angry at Assayas for betraying his earlier hipper, more energetic films (I'm just impressed by his range), while others, like me, were really taken in by the Dickensian sweep.
  • Chardonne's novel is a masterfully written tale about two characters as they spiral through and explore love as life's most essential element. The director captured it beautifully as a tone, a feeling, and as an overall impression of how the characters react to their journey. Unfortunately, he left out the milestones, those transitions a character makes, inwardly, as outward events bear in on them. The audience is asked to make gigantic leaps of logic as the character's trust in and dependence on Love changes, evolves with age. Mind you this is a three hour epic, so it is not for want of time that the production misses the mark, only the screenwriter's discipline, and here, again, the director got involved where he ought not be.
  • Bocio28 April 2001
    The first hour is much more closer than Visconti's Gattopardo than others recently films: a breathtaking, sensitive, exquisite look of the protestant bourguesie of Limoges, at the beginning of the XX cenntury when "an old age" is sinked. Then, the epic turns into Bertolucci`s Novecento. But actually, the whole love story is undoubtely a genuine Truffaut. Huppert is superb, but also Berning and Beart. The camera moves in a way you've forgotten. A must see.
  • For the first time Assayas has left the contemporary Paris settings of his films and tried his hands on a period picture, set in a small village in the South, a china factory in Limoges, the Swiss Alps and on the battlefields of WW1. The film is a brave attempt to revive Luchino Visconti`s lavish epics but unfortunately lacks the Italian`s breath. The story could have easily been told in 90 minutes (instead of 180!), and even if some scenes and locations look gorgeous (especially the ballroom-scene!) and Assayas` (and cameraman Eric Gautier`s) usual trademark, the nervous camerawork, goes down well with a period picture, all that isn`t enough to hold our attention for such a long time. Nothing in this films can really surprise us, not even the beauty of Emmanuelle Beart or the acting quality of Isabelle Huppert, and as the film potters along one hopes Assayas will rapidly go contemporary again. Not really bad but definitely ways apart from the quality of his earlier films.
  • This movie is either too short or too long.

    If it tries to follow a book and to show the whole life of several dozen people, it should have been made as a mini (not too short) serial. I still remember how much I've enjoyed first TV version of The Forsyte Saga, made in 26 episodes.

    There are also far too many characters in the movie. (I know France is a big nation, but they didn't have to show all of them in one movie.) For the first hour you even don't know who the main characters are (unless you've read carefully opening credits). Later during the movie some of them never appear again, some appear when you've already forgotten who they were and you don't care for them any more (as well as main characters and probably the director himself). Some get a significant footage in certain part of the movie and then never show again, being completely irrelevant to the plot (or having a subplot of their own that never develops). Yes, life looks that way, you can suddenly meet a person you haven't met for ages, but life lasts decades and you can't compress it into 180 minutes.

    The movie promises very much in first hour (though this extreme number of characters obstructs your attention and complicates following the plot - and sometimes you wonder if there is any). Ball scene (often mentioned in other comments) and some casual talking scenes are marvelous in best French tradition.

    But suddenly, as if the director discovered that his movie should last more than twelve hours if he kept the same rhythm, we jump along the years and we have some important things just mentioned as if someone waking from coma now and then and getting a few basic informations before losing conscience again.

    The final hour is the best, but I'm afraid many people haven't seen it, either because of giving up, or simply falling asleep while trying to find who is who and what is he doing. Even those with best attention, who could solve this two questions, had no chance to answer the third one - why. Maybe we, who stayed awake till the end, managed to understand the main characters, but it is not a compliment for a 180 hours long work.

    Some people compared this movie to Visconti's works. I'd agree, as I find Visconti the most boring of all overrated directors (and, just to mention, I respect Tarkovsky, like Tornatore and adore Bergmann - and ignore action movies).

    Except making a serial, this movie could have been made watchable in two other ways. First, it could be made without middle part - after 1900 events we could have skipped into WWII without losing anything. Second, Assayan could have made what Kazan did with Steinbeck's East of Eden - chose one part of the novel, one plot and cut away the rest. We could have lost characters like Louise, Aline and her friend (?), Fayet etc, but I couldn't care less for them anyway. Maybe someone would find it a blasphemy for the literature, but making people yawn and bore isn't a favor to it either.
  • Having just yawned through three hours of "Les Destinees Sentimentales" I find myself asking yet again, "Whatever has happened to French cinema?" Time was in the '60's and '70's when it was one of the most fertile sources in the world with masterworks such as Chabrol's "Le Boucher" and Goretta's "La Dentelliere" appearing with amazing frequency to say nothing about little gems such as Alain Dhouailly's "Inutile Envoyer Photo" about which I can find nothing on this database. There was even "Permis de Conduire", a delightful trifle about a man trying to pass his driving test which seems to have passed unnoticed, but which, had it been made in the UK, would no doubt have brought forth the sort of accolades we used to give to such films as "Genevieve"; in actual fact I thought the French film so much better. In France Andre Techine seems to be the only director doing worthwhile things these days - if readers know of others I would be glad to hear of them. For the rest, two genres seem to predominate, inconsequential stories of everyday human relationships a la Eric Rohmer, but without that master's sophistication and subtlety, and period literary adaptations which seem to have a statutory length of at least three hours. In this latter category comes "Les Destinees Sentimentales" a dreary saga of a family running a porcelain factory that starts at the beginning of the 20th century moving forward to the period between the two World Wars. It mainly deals with marital and business ups and downs. With the one exception of an estranged wife magnificently played by Isabelle Huppert, the rest are singularly boring company. Even the central character. a Protestant cleric who abandons his calling, seems incapable of conveying the suffering of spiritual doubt in the way that Gunnar Bjornstrand so memorably achieved in Bergman's "Winter Light". In the end it all seems such a waste of effort by a youngish director, Olivier Assayas, who is clearly not without talent. Early on there is a ballroom scene that has that excitment of movement often to be found in the best of Scorsese. If he were to choose his subject matter more carefully there is the ability there to make a really good film. I have to admit that this is the only Assayas film I have seen so he may well have done this already. Again I would appreciate hearing from readers on this point.
  • Without any sugar coating - this is a just a very poor and poorly made film in spite of the high production values and fine cast. The 3 hours seem like an eternity. Yet, with all that time, the main characters and their motivations are not well developed, and too many minor characters were introduced without allowing us time to learn much more than their names. Also, especially at the beginning of the movie, the jerky camera-work was overused and used poorly making me dizzy more than anything else. It ruined an otherwise nice ballroom scene.

    Let me add that I *do* like slow paced films without linear plot that take their time to meander with interesting characters that come and go and nice eye-candy cinematography. Maybe with some better editing, a tighter screenplay and some better camera-work this would have worked. As it was, I kept wanting the protagonist to die so that the film would finally end.
  • after eagerly seeking out this film, i found myself totally bored..it was too long,had no movement..although very beautiful..but the beauty wore thin after 40 minutes..performances ok...but in the end dull,dull, dull..lots of pottery but not much else..
  • "Les Destinees sentimentales" feels like it's bringing to life selected scenes from some beloved French family saga that it helps to have read, which is hard for non-Francophones as the 1936 novel by Jacques Chardonne isn't available in English.

    The look is delicate and beautiful (and it soothed my headache) with gorgeous costumes, settings and Impressionistic cinematography as it traces the intertwining lives, families, and businesses of wine growers and porcelain makers in Limoges in the first half of the 20th century.

    But as a family saga, I just kept thinking over and over how much better is "The Godfather" or even "Sunshine."

    The three sections, each about an hour long, are divided to indicate the changing interests of the central character -- to wife #1, then wife #2, then to running the family business (yes he almost says: "They keep bringing me back in!").

    But whether it's the writing (as adapted by director Olivier Assayas) or the acting of Charles Berling, he just isn't commanding of our attention. As one gossipy cousin complains towards the end, first he was with one wife, then for no particular reason the second, then somehow he was obsessively running the family factory -- so what does he want? And her mind didn't even wander past the subtitles a few times like mine did, missing some plot points here and there.

    (originally written 4/20/2002)